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New Peer-Reviewed Study Shows Ivermectin ‘Significantly’ Reduces COVID Infections, Hospitalization, and Mortality Rates
American Greatness ^
| January 18, 2022
| Debra Heine
Posted on 01/19/2022 10:52:46 AM PST by Heartlander
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To: bramps
I am aware of your infatuation with non published non reviewed data. I assume you don’t have the reference as does not anyone else. I would actually like to read a peer reviewed paper as it might sway my judgment. That’s what people actually trained in science do.
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posted on
01/19/2022 12:59:35 PM PST
by
gas_dr
(Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
To: gas_dr
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posted on
01/19/2022 1:00:12 PM PST
by
Heartlander
(Prediction: Increasingly, logic will be seen as a covert form of theism. - Denyse O'Leary)
To: Jim Noble
So not published in a journal. Got it.
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posted on
01/19/2022 1:02:01 PM PST
by
gas_dr
(Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
To: Heartlander
Thanks. For some reason I didn’t catch the hyperlink. Ok. Will read it
Much appreciated.
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posted on
01/19/2022 1:03:03 PM PST
by
gas_dr
(Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
To: gas_dr
I am aware of your infatuation with non published non reviewed data
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I sent you the actual link that shows a single-digit death rate since this summer.
The fact that you send a perverse accusation instead of addressing the black and white statistical fact of the success Uttar Pradesh has had with Ivermectin speaks volumes about your character. Did you even look at that at the statistics? Aren’t you even a little bit curious for the sake of innocent Americans?
And let me ask you this about your ‘peers’ that you speak so highly of when it comes to peer-reviewed studies. Sounds like you really hold all of these studies in high regard. Well if you questioned every physician or scientist that ever took part in any of these peer reviewed studies, how many of them think that Joe Biden actually won the 2020 election?
Now you see the value of your peer reviewed studies? And the power of big pharma.
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posted on
01/19/2022 1:20:03 PM PST
by
bramps
(It's the Islam, stupid!)
To: SoConPubbie
SoConPubbie wrote: “That’s because they are lying and making it up!”
Abstract
Summary
There is increasing concern that most current published research findings are false. The probability that a research claim is true may depend on study power and bias, the number of other studies on the same question, and, importantly, the ratio of true to no relationships among the relationships probed in each scientific field. In this framework, a research finding is less likely to be true when the studies conducted in a field are smaller; when effect sizes are smaller; when there is a greater number and lesser preselection of tested relationships; where there is greater flexibility in designs, definitions, outcomes, and analytical modes; when there is greater financial and other interest and prejudice; and when more teams are involved in a scientific field in chase of statistical significance. Simulations show that for most study designs and settings, it is more likely for a research claim to be false than true. Moreover, for many current scientific fields, claimed research findings may often be simply accurate measures of the prevailing bias. In this essay, I discuss the implications of these problems for the conduct and interpretation of research.
https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.0020124
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posted on
01/19/2022 1:25:20 PM PST
by
DugwayDuke
(Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
To: consult
“but this is an “observational study”....same junk science used to support mask mandates.”
Observational studies are perfectly fine, if well thought out. They are valid for many things.
Not as high powered as rct’s, but rct’s are often not practical. Nobody in the science feild that is not an idiot ever said, “rct’s or nothing! No rxt? Let them die!”
Straw
Man
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posted on
01/19/2022 1:54:50 PM PST
by
Basket_of_Deplorables
(Convention Of States is our only hope now! Desantis 2024!!!)
To: Heartlander
I’ve been on prescribed HCQ for 22 months, and horse paste (literally) for 18. No vax, no mask, don’t care, don’t subscribe to the fear game.
Seems to be just fine. Had some sniffles a couple times, other than that, nothing, for the entire scamdemic.
But I’m capable of doing my own in depth research, and have the background to sort through the bs. Not everyone is.
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posted on
01/19/2022 1:59:04 PM PST
by
Basket_of_Deplorables
(Convention Of States is our only hope now! Desantis 2024!!!)
To: DugwayDuke
The Ivermectin may or may not have helped.
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Same could be said for the shots you advocate for.
To: SoConPubbie
To: gas_dr
“ It’s an interesting study but I don’t see the reference. Anyone have the publication reference. Which journal and the citation. I would like to read the actual publication.”
Nope, can’t have anything that shatters the bad information you’ve been hawking around here. Oh, you’ll believe Fauci, no matter what he says, but actual people being saved by Ivermectin and you brush it off.
So very thankful I’m not your patient. How many is it that you’ve lost now?
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posted on
01/19/2022 7:50:30 PM PST
by
BlueMondaySkipper
(Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
To: gas_dr
Why don’t you tell us how much income you’ve received following the Fauci/FDA/CDC protocols.
I’ll go first. I haven’t received a dime, and am fighting to retain my job because of mandates. I haven’t even had the sniffles during the entire time, and haven’t made a dime promoting ivermectin, which I’m using as a prophylactic. In fact, I’ve given some from my supply and healed friends without compensation.
Your turn. How much money have you made specifically from treating covid patients? How many have you lost? How many hospitalized? What are the numbers? If you want to be an expert here we need to see your success documented.
The covid cash is a very lucrative deal. One local volunteer fire department where I went to HS has made $187k doing tests and giving jabs. That’s enough to make them keep on keeping on and not rocking the boat by talking ivermectin. What is your cash to ethic ratio?
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posted on
01/19/2022 8:01:42 PM PST
by
BlueMondaySkipper
(Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
To: BlueMondaySkipper
I am happy as well that you are not my patient. As an intensivist it is pretty bad by the time i get them. I have seen a lot of patients and families who tried HCq and ivermectin and ended up in the ICU anyway. I have tried ivermectin in late phase disease. No results.
So when I question a peer reviewed article and ask for its publication source I am genuinely interested in evaluating the study to see if it sways opinion. The fact that this is not punished in any journal of record snd it’s obscure to find means something. The fact that is observational means something.
I am looking for the truth. I am looking for actual studies that show something. I am ever willing to listen. This study as others have pointed it out really doesn’t move the needle all that much
Since the advent and easy distribution of monoclonals we have an excellent survival rate of those who were ok their way to catastrophe. The fact is that monoclonal therapy is superior in ever way to any other therapeutic. This article does nothing to change my position. So i will continue with my current practice of treatment.
The good news of course is that this is over thanks to omicron. I believe I read England is rescinding all Covid measure next weeks. We shouldn’t be far behind.
The other questions tou ask are simply emotional questions that have no bearing on much. They are designed to detract from facts and inculcate emotion which as a debate technique I choose not to take the bait. Raise the vast majority of physicians are salaries so your obtuse money making question is irrelevant.
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posted on
01/19/2022 8:57:35 PM PST
by
gas_dr
(Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
To: gas_dr
So you tried Ivermectin late in the cycle with no result. That’s a lie. Everything has a RESULT. Let’s see the specifics, not some drivel. Number of patients, condition prior to starting, dosing regimen, results, results compared to patients not getting ivermectin, etc.. Perhaps you’re not doing it right. If you cared to actually read and comprehend the ivermectin studies, you would find it’s much better to get on the protocol early. Your facility seems intent on letting patients get bad. We know covid deaths are a financial windfall to hospitals.
You don’t mention how many patients you have lost. Tell us. You want us to believe you should be trusted, but to do so we need data. How many covid patients have you lost? What’s the percentage? Same for your facility as a whole. Let’s see the data. Can’t trust you without it. What are you hiding?
Next up, how much COVID based money have you and your facility received? I suspect you have a financial horse in this game and are only here to defend your gravy train. I know of a small town volunteer fire department who raked in $187k for giving jabs and doing tests. Please disclose your financial benefits related to coviD, as well as the same for your employer.
Let’s hear it. Defend your position with real life evidence. How many dead in your facility?
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posted on
01/20/2022 10:37:51 AM PST
by
BlueMondaySkipper
(Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
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