I never described either as “doable”. Performing a “citizen’s arrest” is perhaps doable but inadvisable.
***It is VERY advisable because the guy did what all those Jan6ers are actually being held in prison for without even being accused of it.
My main point is that we don’t really KNOW what Epps was up to or whose side he’s on.
***At this point I don’t care what your main point is because it took you this long to get to it. It doesn’t matter if we KNOW because there is VIDEO of him actually doing it.
He appears to deserve charges brought more than most of the people the Feds are targeting,
***You are arguing MY point.
but they aren’t interested in Epps for some unknown reason.
***The reason is KNOWN but not provable. The guy is obviously a fed informant. He deserves severe imprisonment.
But we do KNOW there are people who are being illegally held as political prisoners.
***Attempted diversionary tactic.
The same forces that are currently keeping many Jan 6 protestors in jail (illegally) would also put anyone in jail who attempted (whether successfully or not) to detain or arrest Epps.
***Nonsense.
So, the question is whether YOU think YOU have the power to defeat these same forces.
***I know I have the power to citizen-arrest Ray Epps, I just don’t have the wherewithal.
If so, why not just direct your efforts where they are best served: setting the illegally detained protestors free.
***Secondary attempt to divert attention.
Anyone who attempts to citizen’s arrest Epps is going to end up joining the political prisoners of Jan 6.
***No, they are not. Because the video evidence against Epps is compelling and the law is clear: We have the right to citizen arrest people whom we witness committing crimes. You just don’t like it.
Ironically, advising anyone to take such actions is very similar to the thing we all suspect Epps of doing.
***Bullshiite.
This begs the question: Are YOU an FBI agitator?
***That begs the question? This is your third attempt at diversion. You’re just a simple provocateur.
I doubt it,
***Then you’re just bein’ a shiite-disturbing provocateur.
but I suggest it’s a very bad idea
***There you go again. Upholding wussiness as if it’s a virtue.
to encourage anyone to use citizen’s arrest to go after Epps
***You really kinda suck at coming up with good reasons to be against this action. You just don’t like it, and so you expect others to think it’s a bad idea because it goes against your grain of simple conventional thinking.
or any of the criminal politicians who certainly deserve to be locked up.
***4th attempt at diversion.
Even encouraging others to do so could get in you in hot water.
***There you go again. Now you’re just repeating your wussy assertions without any support in facts nor law.
“We have the right to citizen arrest people whom we witness committing crimes. You just don’t like it.”
Years ago I was an armed security guard. I’m not claiming to be an expert, but I do know what the laws say in my state and what the entire legal premise of “citizen’s arrest” is. You do not.
Seeing a video of a crime does not grant you that authority. You must be an eye witness, maintain a continuous line of sight of the perp, you must be sure the crime meets the statutory requirements of the state where the crime occurred, and you must act at the time of the crime you witnessed. After that it is in the hands of duly appointed officers of the law.
Here is the specific law in D.C.:
https://code.dccouncil.us/us/dc/council/code/sections/23-582
Like everywhere else, citizen’s arrest only allows you to hold a criminal in order to turn him over to law enforcement. Hunting down a person who committed a crime (possibly) in D.C. and arresting him in another state is NOWHWERE considered a lawful exercise of the rights of a citizen to arrest a suspected criminal. It has NOTHING to do with how I feel about, or how YOU feel about it for that matter.
Ray Epps resides in Arizona. Here is the pertinent law regarding becoming an accessory to the crime of kidnapping which you are arguing for:
https://www.azleg.gov/ars/13/00303.htm
If you solicit, command, advise, or aid someone who decides to kidnap Ray Epps, you could be criminally liable as well as the kidnapper. (And that is exactly what someone. Attempting to “citizen’s arrest Epps would be charged with, along with trespassing, unlawful restraint, and any other of many charges including for whatever weapons are used, crossing state lines, etc.)
I advise not to attempt such a thing against Epps, and I advise not to encourage others to do so, because BOTH could lead to your incarceration and criminal charges being filed against you.
You can choose to take my advice or ignore it.
Beyond that I don’t feel our discussion on this topic is serving any further purpose. Thanks for your time. Good luck.