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US has intelligence Putin will stage a 'false flag' attack on his OWN troops to set up a pretext to invade Ukraine after talks between the US and Russia collapsed
Daily Mail UK ^ | 01 14 2022 | Rob Crilly

Posted on 01/14/2022 10:45:38 AM PST by yesthatjallen

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To: JonPreston

Operation Let’s Go Brandon


41 posted on 01/14/2022 11:36:54 AM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: Thunder90

The only winner in a war with Russia is China.


42 posted on 01/14/2022 11:37:56 AM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: yesthatjallen

43 posted on 01/14/2022 11:40:08 AM PST by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic...)
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To: Nextrush

What you said.


44 posted on 01/14/2022 11:40:23 AM PST by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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To: yesthatjallen

Obama let Putin take the Crimea... What are the chances that Biden will stop him from taking over the Ukraine? The likely answer... Zero!


45 posted on 01/14/2022 11:47:08 AM PST by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: yesthatjallen

Such endless bullcrap. Gotta distract from the abject failures domestically.


46 posted on 01/14/2022 11:47:16 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
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To: struggle

“Or the US will launch an attack but call it a false flag.”

BINGO!


47 posted on 01/14/2022 11:48:22 AM PST by chuckb87
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To: yesthatjallen

I don’t believe anything our government says.


48 posted on 01/14/2022 11:50:56 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Nextrush
The only winner in a war with Russia is China.

BINGO!!!

49 posted on 01/14/2022 11:56:43 AM PST by NachOsten (Only a Fool believes there is no hell!)
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To: 100%FEDUP

of course the talks collapsed. The Russians were serious in their demands. Their actual red line has been crossed and they feel an existential NATO threat and belligerence towards them.
They made specific terms and set a one month deadline.
DC started their usual BS of “negotiation” technique. Announce a flat refusal of their demands, but send some DC swamp woman who was supposed to prattle on and on, employ a huge array of diplomats from half of NATO, get a huge budget, and “talk” as the DC agenda proceeds without change.
Offer them some meaningless agreement etc.
DC negotiations are basically, “we aren’t changing a single thing, but we can talk you into liking it”.

Russia is tired of a decade plus of insults, and now of the NATO road show moving right up to their borders. Watch for missile deployments to Cuba and Kaliningrad and every location where they can use INF nukes to menace the EU.

In this case I think they were serious, DC was business as usual, and they have caused more of their same BS. Good old State and DOD doing the neocon thing.


50 posted on 01/14/2022 11:56:44 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
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To: Trump_Triumphant

DON’T doubt it.

Russia invented modern false flag terror attacks. They’ve been killing their own people for a very long time and seem to enjoy it. Modern terrorism is also an invention of the Russians. We can thank Middle Eastern and Communist terrorism on the KGB.

Sting was wrong: the Russkies don’t love their children like we do!


51 posted on 01/14/2022 11:59:06 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Renfrew; All
Is the plan that the Deep State will attack Russia, but they will make it look like a Russian false flag?

Where's the logic in that? We have no forces mobilized to fight Russia. Russia has the edge in nuclear weaponry due to their constant cheating on their technology. Russia has the massive army mobilized for an imminent invasion of Ukraine. Ukraine will be stomped on and Russia will be directly up to the Polish border, whom Russia ALSO occasionally threatens with annihilation, and who is not yet ready to defend herself either.

So what exactly would be the purpose of bombing a bunch of stupid, drunk Russian conscripts--who are half the time raping each other due to the epidemic of man on man rape in the Russian army, which will do nothing but galvanize these Orcs and Goblins to charge into Ukraine and start raping the Ukrainians instead? This would be a loss to the United States and Europe, not a "win."

And if the 'Deep State' wanted to lose to help Russia, there are better ways they could lose than randomly bombing worthless Russians.

52 posted on 01/14/2022 12:04:02 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Obadiah
"I believe absolutely nothing these people claim. Nothing."

The first casualty of (provocations leading to) war is the truth. I'll be 2 or 3 years before we untangle the motives and lies, if ever.

53 posted on 01/14/2022 12:04:55 PM PST by yesthatjallen
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To: struggle
-- Or the US will launch an attack but call it a false flag... --

And guaranteed, if the US was contemplating that, US intelligence (proaganda) agencies would plant news stories EXACTLY like the one we read here.

54 posted on 01/14/2022 12:10:45 PM PST by Cboldt
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The history of warfare is similarly subdivided, although here the phases are Retribution, Anticipation, and Diplomacy.
Thus:
Retribution: "I'm going to kill you because you killed my brother."
Anticipation: "I'm going to kill you because I killed your brother."
Diplomacy: "I'm going to kill my brother and then kill you on the pretext that your brother did it."

https://www.dyop.info/douglasadamsquotes.htm

55 posted on 01/14/2022 12:29:49 PM PST by yesthatjallen
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To: JonPreston

Lord I hope not but you are probably right.


56 posted on 01/14/2022 12:32:59 PM PST by rrrod (6)
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To: JonPreston

I was just telling my wife the same thing.

The ground is frozen. Just the right time to roll tanks. And shut down pipelines. I hope the folks in Kiev have been cutting firewood.

I have to wonder if there are busses of American Girl Scouts just waiting to be held hostage. /sarcasm.


57 posted on 01/14/2022 12:44:50 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: yesthatjallen

And US intelligence knows a thing or two about false flags.


58 posted on 01/14/2022 12:45:41 PM PST by mykroar (There is no instance of a country having benefited from prolonged warfare. - Sun Tzu)
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To: yesthatjallen

This just in...Ukraine terrorists attack Russian radio
station and broadcast false and debunked statements
that Trump won the election.
The dead and decaying bodies of the terrorists were
all found to be wearing Ukrainian Dress blue uniforms
and carrying M-16 rifles with ghost receivers stamped
Made in New Jersy at Bubba’s garage.

Russian security forces have verified the data and
have sworn to uncover the hive of such villainy and
impeach President Trump a third or even a forth time.


59 posted on 01/14/2022 12:57:48 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: yesthatjallen

Every place on the verge of was has a connection to Hunter and the Big Guy.


60 posted on 01/14/2022 1:03:43 PM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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