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Justices Roberts and Kavanaugh both acquiesced in the Biden Department of Health and Human Services’ power grab.
https://thefederalist.com ^ | January 14, 2022 | Author Margot Cleveland profile Margot Cleveland

Posted on 01/14/2022 8:56:48 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com

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1 posted on 01/14/2022 8:56:48 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Roberts is just a liberal, nobody had to twist his arm.


2 posted on 01/14/2022 8:57:56 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Rumor has it they have Roberts over a barrel about his adopted children. Rumor has it Epstein just reached into his inventory of kids and passed him out a couple.


3 posted on 01/14/2022 8:58:20 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (Let's go Brandon)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

The mRNA vaccines do greatly reduce hospitalization and death, so such mandates are not irrelevant, just incompatible with Article VI because they are a religious test for public office[military mandate] or public trust[federal contractor mandate].


4 posted on 01/14/2022 9:00:50 AM PST by Brian Griffin ( )
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Bttt.


5 posted on 01/14/2022 9:01:06 AM PST by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12 )
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Congress should be criminally liable for their dereliction of duty in ignoring their express responsibilities under The Constitution.


6 posted on 01/14/2022 9:04:27 AM PST by Paladin2 (🍊 )
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

The Missouri case bothered me. But the reality on the ground is this, the healthcare workers hold much leverage. They walk and the system collapses. What will HHS do then?


7 posted on 01/14/2022 9:04:30 AM PST by FlipWilson
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Roberts is compromised. No intelligent person can deny it.

If he has ANY regard for the future of our constitutional republic, he should step down as soon as the next conservative president takes office.


8 posted on 01/14/2022 9:06:31 AM PST by BrexitBen
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Wonder what they would say about a vax mandate for Supreme Court Justices?

After all, they affect the lives of hundreds of millions. Can’t have them woozy from the effects of a virus. Take the jab, tyrants!


9 posted on 01/14/2022 9:06:37 AM PST by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Robert’s adopted children are now adults I believe.

https://underneaththeirrobes.blogs.com/main/2005/08/the_roberts_ado.html


10 posted on 01/14/2022 9:09:04 AM PST by Brian Griffin ( )
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To: FlipWilson
But the reality on the ground is this, the healthcare workers hold much leverage. They walk and the system collapses. What will HHS do then?
What they've wanted to do all along.

Federalize the health system.

11 posted on 01/14/2022 9:09:21 AM PST by Bratch
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The mRNA vaccines do greatly reduce hospitalization and death...

Any credible evidence (not from Big Pharma or Big Hospital) for that?

12 posted on 01/14/2022 9:13:51 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Zedong [FJB])
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To: FlipWilson

There is a big problem with health care staffing in many hospitals right now.

I believe based on what I’ve read here that the Supreme Court decision referred to federally-funded “facilities” - i.e. buildings, not employers. Big Health Care System Inc. might therefore offload privately-funded care to separate care facilities.


13 posted on 01/14/2022 9:20:21 AM PST by Brian Griffin ( )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Some Washington State Department of Health statistics:

COVID-19 Cases, Hospitalizations, and Deaths by Vaccination Status
December 15, 2021[this would be for delta and applies to cases where professional care is utilized]

Unvaccinated 12-34 year-olds in Washington are
• 5 times more likely to get COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 12-34 year-olds.
• 23 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 12-34 year-olds.

Unvaccinated 35-64 year-olds are
• 5 times more likely to get COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 35-64 year-olds.
• 17 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 35-64 year-olds.

Unvaccinated 65+ year-olds are
• 6 times more likely to get COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 65+ year-olds.
• 11 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 65+ yearolds.
• 13 times more likely to die of COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 65+ year-olds.

COVID-19 case rates among 12-34 year-old individuals are 5 times higher in the
unvaccinated population than in the fully vaccinated population
[from graph on page 5, for end of November]

COVID-19 hospitalization rates among 12-34 year-old individuals are 23 times
higher in the unvaccinated population than in the fully vaccinated population
[from graph on page 7, for end of November]

COVID-19 hospitalization rates per 100,000 population from November 03 to November 30, 2021 [by age group]
35-64 17 times higher in unvaccinated
65+ 11 times higher in unvaccinated
[from table on page 9]

https://www.doh.wa.gov/Portals/1/Documents/1600/coronavirus/data-tables/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf


14 posted on 01/14/2022 9:24:36 AM PST by Brian Griffin ( )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

You probably know people that work in a hospital.

Ask those you trust that would be knowledgeable.


15 posted on 01/14/2022 9:25:58 AM PST by Brian Griffin ( )
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
The Biden v. Missouri dissents, however, did not go far enough. The same separation of powers problems plaguing the OSHA regulation apply equally in the context of the CMS rule. Yet the dissenting justices gave short shrift to those concerns.

The author is flat-out wrong on this. See my explanation below, which I've posted on other threads.

I agree with the arguments against the merits of the vaccine mandates in general, but I don't think the arguments against the vaccine mandates for health care providers weighed very heavily in a Supreme Court case.

1. The OSHA mandate was overturned because it was correctly determined to be an abuse of the Federal government's power as a regulatory body (through OSHA).

2. The CMS mandate was upheld because it wasn't really a case about government power as a regulatory body. Instead, it involved the Federal government's role as the "customer/client" in a relationship with health care facilities (through Medicare and Medicaid).

The difference may seem subtle, but from a legal standpoint it is huge. The Supreme Court basically determined (and they are on fairly strong legal ground here) that the CMS case was ultimately about contract law, not constitutional law.

The author can't claim that the "separation of powers" arguments are the same in both cases when the Federal government is filling TWO DIFFERENT ROLES in the two cases.

16 posted on 01/14/2022 9:26:17 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("All lies and jest; still, a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.")
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Note the fence in front of the Supreme Court.


17 posted on 01/14/2022 9:27:18 AM PST by Brian Griffin ( )
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Joe’s Medicaid/Medicare mandate may be considered a constitutionally-impermissible religious test.

Do you think Joe would have imposed it if 100% of the unvaccinated were black Democrats?


18 posted on 01/14/2022 9:30:00 AM PST by Brian Griffin ( )
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To: Brian Griffin

“Note the fence in front of the Supreme Court.”

Let’s call it a Big Beautiful Wall [with doors]....


19 posted on 01/14/2022 9:30:59 AM PST by Paladin2 (🍊 )
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To: Alberta's Child
The Supreme Court basically determined (and they are on fairly strong legal ground here) that the CMS case was ultimately about contract law, not constitutional law.

Contracts can be unconstitutional, and still be valid?

20 posted on 01/14/2022 9:31:33 AM PST by Golden Eagle (What's in YOUR injection?)
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