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An Orthodox Rabbi Writes That People Are Basically Good -- Judaism Is in TroubleAn Orthodox Rabbi Writes That People Are Basically Good -- Judaism Is in Trouble
Townhall.com ^ | January 11, 2022 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 01/11/2022 3:54:27 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 01/11/2022 3:54:27 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I think people want to be good, unless you are a sociopath or psychopath. However, I think some people don’t have a clue as to how to be good.


2 posted on 01/11/2022 3:56:42 AM PST by Jonty30 (I love giving directions, because it is like me to tell people where to go and how to get there.)
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To: Kaslin
"Judaism Is in Trouble."

What, again..?

3 posted on 01/11/2022 3:59:14 AM PST by unread (Everything you ever thought was right, fair and just is completely wrong..... I think..(?))
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To: Kaslin

No one is good but God alone.


4 posted on 01/11/2022 3:59:56 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Kaslin

> “Of course, he might be an outlier.”

Let’s pray it is so.

I do believe at some level, there is an inherent goodness in most people. But it’s not always easy to discern and can be risky to presume.

It’s best to be suspicious until the true character of a person emerges.

“By their fruits, you shall know them.”


5 posted on 01/11/2022 4:02:13 AM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Kaslin

“Made in the image of God”, yes. But then came sin, original sin; and the rest is history. And there is a future worth having.

I am forever grateful that God saw fit, from before the world began, to purchase us back to Himself. And, oh, the cost, the currency of redemption!

“Thanks be to God for His unspeakable Gift”!


6 posted on 01/11/2022 4:09:35 AM PST by Migraine
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To: Kaslin

Presumably, Prager is speaking of Pini Dunner. Beverley Hills Synagogue.

https://www.algemeiner.com/2021/12/31/being-good-is-in-our-nature/


7 posted on 01/11/2022 4:11:21 AM PST by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: Jonty30
An Orthodox Rabbi Writes That People Are Basically Good -- Judaism Is in Trouble

No more 'in trouble' than Christianity is when some weirdo 'protestant' 'minister' writes that People are basically good.

I happen believe THESE words are true:


Romans 3:10-12 KJV

10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: 11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. 12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

8 posted on 01/11/2022 4:16:11 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kaslin
If someone wants to claim that Judism is 'in trouble', then point to the TRUE cause:

Rejection of Jesus of Nazareth as messiah.



It's so simple Yoda could parse it.



9 posted on 01/11/2022 4:25:38 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Migraine
“Made in the image of God”, yes. But then came ...

Genesis 5:3

When Adam had lived 130 years, he fathered a son in his own likeness, after his image, and named him Seth.

10 posted on 01/11/2022 4:29:06 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Migraine

I know we constantly hear that man is made in the image of GOD, but is that STILL true? considering the above?

http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~quixote/genealogy/Seth.htm


11 posted on 01/11/2022 4:34:23 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kaslin

“Good” doesn’t apply to man before Gd raised him. Man was an animal - animals are neither good nor evil, but live and die according to the rules of Nature - as ordained by Gd, but that’s beyond the scope of this discussion. Once Gd got involved, Man became aware of good and evil, thereby becoming capable of both. Once that happens, there’s no putting it aside; you are “made” in the “image of Gd.”

When Man erred against Gd, he had to be put out of the Garden and the warning was “Now you’ll be an animal again, subject to the wayward whims of Nature. You’ll suffer mentally and physically. You wanted to be in charge? Now you are! Haaaaahahahaaaa!” *slams gate*

Adam: Can’t we talk about this?

Eve: I’m cold!

Adam & Eve’s kids: We’re hungry!

Whether it’s “okay” or not for the rabbi to suggest that we’re good - you never know, he might have just been messing. He’s out here with the rest of us miserable sinners, so what does that tell you?


12 posted on 01/11/2022 4:41:38 AM PST by Scarlett156 (Don't take it personally. I just get bored really easily. )
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To: Kaslin

People are basically good?

Too bad about that pesky original sin thing, thanks to Adam and Eve. People basically are sinners, and that ain’t good.


13 posted on 01/11/2022 4:43:28 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (When government fears the people, there is liberty.)
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To: Hostage
I do believe at some level, there is an inherent goodness in most people. But it’s not always easy to discern and can be risky to presume.

Upon what do you base your belief?


Jean-Jacques Rousseau (1712-1778) Man is naturally good: Rousseau and Romanticism.
 
https://christiannews.net/2020/06/26/survey-shows-most-americans-believe-humans-are-basically-good-but-dont-think-life-is-sacred/
 
We are in trouble...

14 posted on 01/11/2022 4:44:44 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Yup - indeed!

With regard to mainstream Christianity -- both Catholicism and Protestantism -- and non-Orthodox Judaism, we are indeed in trouble.

15 posted on 01/11/2022 4:46:02 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

(The Egyptian deity Set / Seth)

16 posted on 01/11/2022 4:47:50 AM PST by Scarlett156 (Don't take it personally. I just get bored really easily. )
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To: Kaslin

Joe lieberman traded Judaism for a shot at the democrat vice presidency.


17 posted on 01/11/2022 4:53:09 AM PST by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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To: Kaslin

“People are basically good” is the auto pilot we put our culture on after the horror of wwll. We’d faced down some bad actors. Belief in themselves and their culture was a hallmark. Post war we seemed to equate having deep seated or inviolable belief with fanaticism. It became a lot easier to cast anyone who loved America as a lurking Hitler. I was born in 1958 and I well remember the constant patriot as scoundrel drumbeat as well as the squishy ‘people are basically good” attitude that always seemed to me to be demonstrably untrue. People put their heads down and made believe it was a new and improved age. It wasn’t and it isn’t as we are seeing today.


18 posted on 01/11/2022 4:59:48 AM PST by TalBlack (We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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To: Elsie

Experience.

Most people I come in contact with are polite with good manners.

For example, two weeks ago I was stuck in snow. A few people stopped and helped me out. They didn’t have to.


19 posted on 01/11/2022 5:00:04 AM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Daffynition

In Genesis 1:27, Rashi, author of the most influential Jewish Bible commentary ever written, explains "in God's image" as "the power to comprehend and to discern."

In God's image and likeness: no two alike!

20 posted on 01/11/2022 5:00:08 AM PST by Ezekiel ("Come fly with US". Ingenuity -- because the Son of David begins with Mars.)
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