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Angry Medics Denounce Unvaccinated Doctor for Challenging Sajid Javid Over Mandatory Jab Policy
TheTimes ^ | Monday January 10 2022

Posted on 01/10/2022 3:52:45 AM PST by nickcarraway

Senior medics have criticised an unvaccinated intensive care doctor who challenged the health secretary over his policy of mandatory Covid jabs for NHS staff, with one saying his comments were “an anti-vax wet dream”.

Steve James, a consultant anaesthetist at Kings College Hospital in London, last week told a visiting Sajid Javid “the science is not strong enough” to insist on compulsory vaccination.

His comments have been criticised by some of his NHS colleagues, with one arguing that he should be suspended.

David Nicholl, a consultant neurologist, said: “If an individual like that worked for me they would be suspended pending an investigation. Obviously when you have over a million people working in the NHS you will invariably get some people who have crank views

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: mandate; unitedkingdom; vaccine

1 posted on 01/10/2022 3:52:45 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

They don’t argue the facts of the policy, they just attack those who disagree?


2 posted on 01/10/2022 3:53:10 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

COVID-19 takes life of longtime Nashville doctor
(Yet they reported he was admitted to the hospital after being vaxxed)

Total lying headline. The doctor died from clots in his leg after getting his first clotshot in Dec 21. The 2 minute news clip even says so, yet they put it down to “died from Covid.”

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-BXotd52i1g

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4028194/posts


3 posted on 01/10/2022 3:57:54 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: nickcarraway

We’re talking the NHS.

People aren’t patients to the NHS.

They’re just the grist for Big Med’s medical mills.

Clap for carers!


4 posted on 01/10/2022 4:11:48 AM PST by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: mewzilla
Meanwhile...

Sack looms for 1,000 unvaccinated NHS staff in Shropshire

The NHS is firing people with superior immunity and keeping vaxxed superspreaders.

That's sciencey.

5 posted on 01/10/2022 4:13:59 AM PST by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: nickcarraway

This is something that has bothered me for years in my profession, and I see it coming home to roost in a particularly unsettling way.

It grieves me when I see medical professionals, educated, intelligent, and accomplished, embracing the universal wearing of masks, lockdowns, and injections with an untested and dangerous vaccine, while taking part in the active suppression of early treatment with antivirals such as HCQ and IVM.

These people aren’t dummies. They aren’t uneducated. Many are very accomplished, yet they have willingly toed these authoritarian lines.

It is the kind of thing that reinforces in me that Leftism is a mental disorder of some kind. There is no other explanation.


6 posted on 01/10/2022 4:21:35 AM PST by rlmorel (Nothing can foster principles of freedom more effectively than the imposition of tyranny.)
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To: rlmorel

It’s been that way all through history. There were many very intelligent and educated professionals living in Germany during the Nazi regime for instance. The few that dared speak up were crushed. So generally speaking, they decided to become followers rather than fight the system. Otherwise, they would lose their status and privileges.


7 posted on 01/10/2022 4:28:28 AM PST by SamAdams76 (I am 44 days away from outliving John Hughes)
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To: SamAdams76

It is insight like that which makes me feel quite low.

Better people than us were unable to get around this issue and ended up in world war.


8 posted on 01/10/2022 4:55:13 AM PST by rlmorel (Nothing can foster principles of freedom more effectively than the imposition of tyranny.)
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To: nickcarraway

https://youtu.be/oh2Sj_QpZOA


9 posted on 01/10/2022 5:08:54 AM PST by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for )
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To: rlmorel

too many corporate quacks not enough doctors


10 posted on 01/10/2022 5:19:48 AM PST by joshua c (Dump the LEFT. Cable tv, Big tech, national name brands)
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To: nickcarraway

He offended their religion…


11 posted on 01/10/2022 6:27:41 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything ᡕᠵ᠊ᡃ࡚ࠢ࠘ ⸝່ࠡࠣ᠊߯᠆ࠣ࠘ᡁࠣ࠘᠊᠊ࠢ࠘𐡏⁻ )
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To: joshua c; nickcarraway; Travis McGee; mewzilla; SamAdams76
"...too many corporate quacks not enough doctors..."

I don't feel that is an accurate way to view this issue.

I think it is more of a mechanism (in medicine in general, but in my geographical area in particular) where policies and treatment plans come down to physicians from above, and they have been thoroughly indoctrinated NOT to diverge from those treatment algorithms.

In this sense, there is that mentality you see in the military. In the military, people are relentlessly drilled and indoctrinated in procedures, policies, and tactics. If you are in the military and you deviate from those established and codified policies and procedures, you damn well better have a good reason if everything goes right.

And if anything goes wrong, that good reason won't help a bit. You will be mercilessly crucified.

It is like that old saying "Nobody ever got fired for buying Microsoft or IBM." They are safe from a conceptual perception.

In healthcare, that same dynamic exists, and because the government from the FDA, CDC, NIAD, Medicare on down has decided for political reasons, to quarantine, lockdown, mask, vaccinate, and suppress effective early treatment.

They have done so with falsified information to drive a corrupt political and financial agenda.

These agendas, codified in directives flow downstream into healthcare institutions, and the point is...a lot of healthcare personnel will slavishly follow these treatment algorithms, not because they are statists (though some are) or because they are quacks (most are definitely not) but if something goes wrong and a patient dies or has harm, if it goes to court and you didn't follow the directives and guidelines, even a good reason you might have had will not save you.

In that situation, a physician or provider can lose their reputation, their job, and even their license.

I should make a special mention of mandated vaccination for healthcare workers. This is one area where I fully agree with Freeper Joshua c's characterization of slavish subservience to corporate interests. Almost all healthcare organizations have employee vaccination programs that have weight in the metrics that drive patient satisfaction AND government reimbursement. The higher your percentage of annually vaccinated employees, the greater the patient satisfaction scores and the greater the reimbursement. Many places had policies where you could refuse the annual vaccination and be allowed to wear a mask for four of five months out of the year (peak flu season, which may be November though February IIRC). This has been a thorn in the side of healthcare administrators, who if they had their way, would have mandated it years ago, but now, with this "crisis" are all too willing to grab the mandate with both hands and implement it. I am under the shadow of it right now.

The point I am trying to make is, the Federal agencies understand this dynamic quite well, and have leveraged it heavily in this "crisis" to force it.

And for the record, I believe what they have done at the upper levels of government (especially the regulatory agencies, but including all other aspects of government who have fed into it) to force vaccination above all other considerations is absolutely inhumane and criminal.

IMO, hundreds of thousands of people have died who did not need to die if off-label treatments such as HCQ and IVM had not been positively and deliberately excluded from the directives outlining treatment. It is criminal and inhumane. And the fact that this has been done for both financial and political reasons makes it even more abhorrent. And I am disillusioned and angry at my own profession for not standing up to be heard on early on the key issues.

12 posted on 01/10/2022 6:33:20 AM PST by rlmorel (Nothing can foster principles of freedom more effectively than the imposition of tyranny.)
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To: nickcarraway

A few days ago, this doctor was “good enough” and “smart enough” to save lives...but today he’s a dimwit douche that should be cast to the curb?

I don’t think so. He’s a hero in my book.

Do these other “medics” have any idea how foolish their stance makes them look?


13 posted on 01/10/2022 7:04:14 AM PST by moovova
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To: moovova

Of course you are correct.

Same with the likes of Dr. Peter McCullough.

Because he believes that safe, effective, and humane early interventional treatment with such things as simple nasopharyngeal lavage, Hydroxychloroquine, and Ivermectin should be used, he has become the enemy of the Left and the governmental powers that be.


14 posted on 01/10/2022 7:09:09 AM PST by rlmorel (Nothing can foster principles of freedom more effectively than the imposition of tyranny.)
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To: moovova

No, they probably don’t. And they don’t care.


15 posted on 01/10/2022 7:09:20 AM PST by sport
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To: nickcarraway

well of course the mob is always right. the “crank” is always wrong. argument over.


16 posted on 01/10/2022 7:53:46 AM PST by dadfly
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To: moovova
"Do these other “medics” have any idea how foolish their stance makes them look?"
Great incentives by government have been created for hospital to play their part. Incentives to diagnose patients as COVID-19 sufferers, give them Remdesivir, stick them on ventilator, even reward them for those who die. Doctors are liable for malpractice suits for using disapproved treatment and even losing their license to practice (I sort of remember the impression in biology grad school that the pre-meds seemed more interested in how much money they were going to make as doctor than helping humanity).
17 posted on 01/10/2022 2:59:02 PM PST by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: Hiddigeigei

“Great incentives by government...”

I know, really. There’s just so much dirty pool going on. And they wonder why we don’t trust them.

I was just in for my annual Medicare checkup and my regular doc said he’d write a scrip for Ivermectin if I needed it. He’s kind of a wild soul.


18 posted on 01/10/2022 4:51:19 PM PST by moovova
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