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My Debate with an ICU Doctor About the Possible Dangers of the COVID-19 Vaccine
Townhall.com ^ | January 9, 2022 | Wayne Allyn Root

Posted on 01/09/2022 3:41:12 AM PST by Kaslin

It's so easy to win a debate with an ignorant liberal. They have no facts. They have no brilliant oratory. Just name-calling. After my national TV interviews last week explaining why I believe the COVID-19 vaccine is killing and injuring thousands of Americans, I received an email from an intensive care unit doctor. He called me a "moron." Below is my reply filled with common sense, logic, facts and most importantly, SCIENCE about the dangers of the COVID-19 vaccine. Needless to say, the doctor never replied.

Dear David,

First, I read and answer all my own emails. I'm answering you personally. I don't engage in ignorant terms like "moron" toward people that disagree with me.

Second, this country (and world) is filled with both unvaccinated and vaccinated who are sick with COVID-19. It's a nasty and contagious flu. At this moment almost every vaccinated person I know is sick with COVID-19. A report released by the Robert Koch Institute stated that in Germany over 96% of those with COVID-19 are vaccinated.

Third, some studies show that the COVID-19 vaccine damages the immune system, thereby making it more likely that the vaccinated will get sick with each successive variant.

Fourth, if the vaccine is so great, why do the deep blue states like New York have massive COVID-19 outbreaks? New York City just set the all-time record for COVID-19 infections in a day. New York right now has almost 30% of all the COVID-19 cases nationwide. How could this happen if vaccines, masks and lockdowns worked?

Fifth, if the vaccine is so great, why are there far more COVID-19 deaths in 2021 with the vaccine than there were in 2020 -- without it?

Sixth, as a M.D., why don't you pay attention to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System? It's been the gold standard for decades to identify if any vaccine is causing more harm than good.

This COVID-19 jab may have killed over 21,000 Americans. That's separate from the cardiac arrests, strokes, blood clots and permanent disabilities that could be associated with the vaccine. And this jab has potentially caused a staggering 1 million "adverse effects." These numbers are from VAERS -- user-reported data compiled by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Seventh, are you aware Columbia University researchers found that adverse events associated with vaccines could be vastly underreported? They suggest you must multiply by 20 to approximate the accurate number of deaths and injuries. So according to the math of Columbia researchers, there are actually over 400,000 deaths and millions of injuries that could be tied to the vaccine.

How could you doubt VAERS? Pfizer's own research showed that there were 1,200 deaths during the initial first few weeks of their vaccine rollout. That's Pfizer's reporting.

Anyone who wants the vaccine should get it. It's called choice. They should thank former President Donald Trump for the availability of this vaccine.

The rest of us who are relatively healthy and/or relatively young have a 99.9% recovery rate from COVID-19. No one should be FORCED to vaccinate, mask, endure lockdowns, lose their job or close their business in America. We have choices. We take risks every day.

Certainly, people should agree that no baby, toddler, child or teen should ever be forced to take this jab. As a John Hopkins study proved, the risk of a child dying is basically zero. Out of 48,000 childhood cases of COVID-19 they studied, no healthy child died.

I've had COVID-19. It was gone in 48 hours after I took ivermectin, plus antibiotic (Z Pak), plus megadoses of vitamins C, D3, zinc and quercetin. Plus, I received intravenous vitamin C. Worked like a charm. Gone in 48 hours. Mild.

I now have immunity. No one with immunity needs to vaccinate. I believe the risks far outweigh the benefits. I make healthy lifestyle choices. I'm not anti-vaccine. I'm pro-immune system.

Justus R. Hope, M.D., and others report that in India, the government ended the worst COVID-19 outbreak anywhere in the world by handing out free packets of ivermectin plus vitamins. They report that COVID-19 went away literally overnight, and deaths dropped to virtually zero. That's exactly what America should have done and should be doing right now.

There are dozens of studies around the world that demonstrate the efficacy of ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) as antivirals versus COVID-19.

I wish you well. I hope I've opened your eyes to the alternatives out there. I know what you see each day in your ICU: the sickest of the sick. It's tragic they have no access to ivermectin or HCQ, plus vitamins like C, D3 and zinc. Early treatment (in the first three to five days) with this combination would almost guarantee few ever wind up at the ICU -- where you see them and where it may already be too late.

It's important to allow different opinions and questions. If "science" won't respect or allow discussion or debate, it's no longer science; it's just propaganda.

I'm doing my best to keep America healthy. I know you're doing your best.

God bless.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: covid; covidvaccine; deaths; doctor; harm; ivermectin; keyboardmd; rona; root; vaccine; vaccines; vaers
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To: Kaslin

“some studies show that the COVID-19 vaccine damages the immune system”

Our immune systems have to deal with a large variety of nasty things and molecules that could potentially be nasty, such as those of laundry detergent fragrances.

Adding one more nasty thing like a vaccine spike protein is not all that significant, especially considering genuine Covid virus spike proteins are likely to be in our futures.

Vaccination against Covid is not without risk, but for most adult Americans the reward/risk ratio favors vaccination.

Some Americans will lose at the Covid vaccination lottery, but there will be a lot more winners.


41 posted on 01/09/2022 6:24:53 AM PST by Brian Griffin ( )
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To: brookwood

” Della and Alpha killed 850000 people in the US.” No, the failure of the Biden administration to make FDA EUA approved monoclonal antibodies well known ( advertising budget for vaccines vs. monoclonals) and readily available killed many of those, likely dwarfing the 150 k cited as vaccine deaths. I agree the pre-vaccine experience was horrific in killing off the very vulnerable population, whose average age of death is higher than the US average age of death.


42 posted on 01/09/2022 6:33:19 AM PST by sopo
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To: brookwood
“Third, some studies show that the COVID-19 vaccine damages the immune system, thereby making it more likely that the vaccinated will get sick with each successive variant.”
Please give a source for this baseless claim.


I'm not going to look it up for you, but I've read several such studies. I think at least one was from Japan.

For real fun, why don't you look for the German pathology study that found instances where the body started over-producing the spike proteins after vaccination, resulting in the cardio-vascular system damage that many of us are aware of. That was real science...people died, and someone actually did autopsies to try and figure out why."
43 posted on 01/09/2022 6:34:02 AM PST by BikerJoe
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To: Brian Griffin

What you say may be true, but if I happen to have an adverse event, I’d like to be able to sue the company that made the concoction. Until we can sue them, it shouldn’t be mandatory. I wish the real truth about CoVid was something that we could discern. I don’t trust the media, and I don’t trust our government.


44 posted on 01/09/2022 6:38:19 AM PST by FamiliarFace
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To: gas_dr
I received an email from an intensive care unit doctor. He called me a "moron."

Gassie you naughty boy. Behave yourself.


45 posted on 01/09/2022 6:41:10 AM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: brookwood
Good morning, Captain Save-a-Vax. Fauci sends his regards and says keep up the good work.


46 posted on 01/09/2022 6:44:35 AM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: sopo

Also, BTW , your estimate of 5 % of NYers died, .05 x 8,000,000 is 400,000, so that’s a Sotomoyor-esque statement, so again I sympathize with that you’ve run around with that frightening number in your head for two years.


47 posted on 01/09/2022 6:46:37 AM PST by sopo
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To: MayflowerMadam

“If the vaccine works so well, why doesn’t it work?”

Outside of Chicago, there was a carjacking recently.

Many of you carry guns to prevent carjacking, but carjackings still occur.

Are we to conclude concealed carry doesn’t work to prevent crime?


48 posted on 01/09/2022 6:47:26 AM PST by Brian Griffin ( )
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To: captain_dave

I tend to agree. The USDA Food Pyramid is genocidal and should be ignored or inverted for a healthier lifestyle.


49 posted on 01/09/2022 6:51:07 AM PST by bigfootbob
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To: IamConservative

The opiod crisis was fueled by CMS.. yes the vax or else. How? They had a question about pain control on their survey. Yes, the survey which determines the percentage of disbursement for hospitals. Enacted under obama.
They knew it was a problem be ause they took it off the survey. Too late, damage done.
Did anyone hold them accountable? No.
So its a threescore at best.
The affordable care act basically ensured that independent healthcare is a thing of the past. Corporatized, regional government healthcare.


50 posted on 01/09/2022 6:53:54 AM PST by momincombatboots (Ephesians 6... who you are really at war with. )
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To: Brian Griffin
Are we to conclude concealed carry doesn’t work to prevent crime?

Yea, if you're a stupit vaxtard rabbit that likes to make false equivalencies to appeal to conservatives.

#LibtardShillTrickery


51 posted on 01/09/2022 6:55:20 AM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: alexander_busek

Such errors - incl. even only typographical errors - can greatly diminish the credibility of an article.

___________________________

So says the avid lefty!


52 posted on 01/09/2022 6:56:52 AM PST by HypatiaTaught ( Born Free, Live Free, Die Free)
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To: MayflowerMadam

What was your reply? Did you end the relationship? I would and I am going to ask my physician that exact question in a couple of months when I go in for my semi-annual cancer surveillance appointment.

I kinda like my doctor, he’s a deacon in his church, vaxxed and he caught rona post vax, but he better answer correctly. Right now, I still have the ability to choose my medical providers and I’m my best advocate.


53 posted on 01/09/2022 6:57:55 AM PST by bigfootbob
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To: cyclotic

“Needless to say, I’m looking for a new doctor.”

I’m in a similar situation. I have a specialist who’s been a mask nazi since day one. I’ve played along, but I’m tired of being scolded by the office personnel. I told him, “I haven’t seen your face in two years, and you wouldn’t recognize me on the street. I’d rather have a doctor who wasn’t afraid of me.”

My GP has never worn a mask with me, and only does so if patients request it.


54 posted on 01/09/2022 6:59:46 AM PST by Not_Who_U_Think
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To: HamiltonJay

Really?

Where is the link citing this information about not immune?

Dr. Peter McCullough was Joe Rogan and stated there has not been one documented case where a person experienced COVID a second time.

In fact people who have experienced the first Sars COV-1, stll have immunity 17 years later...


55 posted on 01/09/2022 7:02:37 AM PST by HypatiaTaught ( Born Free, Live Free, Die Free)
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To: MayflowerMadam

RE: if the vaccine is so great, why are there far more COVID-19 deaths in 2021 with the vaccine than there were in 2020 — without it?”

Could it be because there was several months of lockdown in 2020 and there were no lockdowns in 2021?

Huge crowds in sports events are common in 2021, but not in 2020.

I’d like to see a comparison of deaths with LOCKDOWN AND NO VACCINES vs. LOCK DOWN WITH VACCINES.

Just speculating.


56 posted on 01/09/2022 7:04:01 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Kaslin

“It’s a nasty and contagious flu. “

Technically, it is a cold.


57 posted on 01/09/2022 7:06:18 AM PST by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: FamiliarFace

“What you say may be true, but if I happen to have an adverse event, I’d like to be able to sue the company that made the concoction. Until we can sue them, it shouldn’t be mandatory. I wish the real truth about CoVid was something that we could discern. I don’t trust the media, and I don’t trust our government.”

If you ran into me with your car, I would sue you. And you would call your insurance company, and their lawyers would handle the case. I would hopefully get a check from your insurer.

Your insurance policy contractually requires you to let the insurance company handle claim processing.

I read of ~21,000 Covid vaccine death claims and but haven’t seen even one single pathology report proving (or even claiming to prove) an alleged association.


58 posted on 01/09/2022 7:07:25 AM PST by Brian Griffin ( )
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To: cyclotic

Everyone knows that Ivermectin can’t help you with Covid because Trump cast a magic spell to prevent it from working.


59 posted on 01/09/2022 7:08:16 AM PST by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: HypatiaTaught

RE: Dr. Peter McCullough was Joe Rogan and stated there has not been one documented case where a person experienced COVID a second time.

Look, I support the good doctor and his policies, but on this point, he’s been proven wrong. Among my circle of friends, I know 3 who have recovered from Covid in 2020 who were reinfected in 2021 and recently in 2022.

Apparently, mutations are the gotcha here. As an analogy, Just because you recovered from flu or cold before doesn’t mean you won’t get them again.


60 posted on 01/09/2022 7:08:57 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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