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My Debate with an ICU Doctor About the Possible Dangers of the COVID-19 Vaccine
Townhall.com ^ | January 9, 2022 | Wayne Allyn Root

Posted on 01/09/2022 3:41:12 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

“some studies show that the COVID-19 vaccine damages the immune system”

Our immune systems have to deal with a large variety of nasty things and molecules that could potentially be nasty, such as those of laundry detergent fragrances.

Adding one more nasty thing like a vaccine spike protein is not all that significant, especially considering genuine Covid virus spike proteins are likely to be in our futures.

Vaccination against Covid is not without risk, but for most adult Americans the reward/risk ratio favors vaccination.

Some Americans will lose at the Covid vaccination lottery, but there will be a lot more winners.


41 posted on 01/09/2022 6:24:53 AM PST by Brian Griffin ( )
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To: brookwood

” Della and Alpha killed 850000 people in the US.” No, the failure of the Biden administration to make FDA EUA approved monoclonal antibodies well known ( advertising budget for vaccines vs. monoclonals) and readily available killed many of those, likely dwarfing the 150 k cited as vaccine deaths. I agree the pre-vaccine experience was horrific in killing off the very vulnerable population, whose average age of death is higher than the US average age of death.


42 posted on 01/09/2022 6:33:19 AM PST by sopo
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To: brookwood
“Third, some studies show that the COVID-19 vaccine damages the immune system, thereby making it more likely that the vaccinated will get sick with each successive variant.”
Please give a source for this baseless claim.


I'm not going to look it up for you, but I've read several such studies. I think at least one was from Japan.

For real fun, why don't you look for the German pathology study that found instances where the body started over-producing the spike proteins after vaccination, resulting in the cardio-vascular system damage that many of us are aware of. That was real science...people died, and someone actually did autopsies to try and figure out why."
43 posted on 01/09/2022 6:34:02 AM PST by BikerJoe
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To: Brian Griffin

What you say may be true, but if I happen to have an adverse event, I’d like to be able to sue the company that made the concoction. Until we can sue them, it shouldn’t be mandatory. I wish the real truth about CoVid was something that we could discern. I don’t trust the media, and I don’t trust our government.


44 posted on 01/09/2022 6:38:19 AM PST by FamiliarFace
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To: gas_dr
I received an email from an intensive care unit doctor. He called me a "moron."

Gassie you naughty boy. Behave yourself.


45 posted on 01/09/2022 6:41:10 AM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: brookwood
Good morning, Captain Save-a-Vax. Fauci sends his regards and says keep up the good work.


46 posted on 01/09/2022 6:44:35 AM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: sopo

Also, BTW , your estimate of 5 % of NYers died, .05 x 8,000,000 is 400,000, so that’s a Sotomoyor-esque statement, so again I sympathize with that you’ve run around with that frightening number in your head for two years.


47 posted on 01/09/2022 6:46:37 AM PST by sopo
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To: MayflowerMadam

“If the vaccine works so well, why doesn’t it work?”

Outside of Chicago, there was a carjacking recently.

Many of you carry guns to prevent carjacking, but carjackings still occur.

Are we to conclude concealed carry doesn’t work to prevent crime?


48 posted on 01/09/2022 6:47:26 AM PST by Brian Griffin ( )
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To: captain_dave

I tend to agree. The USDA Food Pyramid is genocidal and should be ignored or inverted for a healthier lifestyle.


49 posted on 01/09/2022 6:51:07 AM PST by bigfootbob
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To: IamConservative

The opiod crisis was fueled by CMS.. yes the vax or else. How? They had a question about pain control on their survey. Yes, the survey which determines the percentage of disbursement for hospitals. Enacted under obama.
They knew it was a problem be ause they took it off the survey. Too late, damage done.
Did anyone hold them accountable? No.
So its a threescore at best.
The affordable care act basically ensured that independent healthcare is a thing of the past. Corporatized, regional government healthcare.


50 posted on 01/09/2022 6:53:54 AM PST by momincombatboots (Ephesians 6... who you are really at war with. )
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To: Brian Griffin
Are we to conclude concealed carry doesn’t work to prevent crime?

Yea, if you're a stupit vaxtard rabbit that likes to make false equivalencies to appeal to conservatives.

#LibtardShillTrickery


51 posted on 01/09/2022 6:55:20 AM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: alexander_busek

Such errors - incl. even only typographical errors - can greatly diminish the credibility of an article.

___________________________

So says the avid lefty!


52 posted on 01/09/2022 6:56:52 AM PST by HypatiaTaught ( Born Free, Live Free, Die Free)
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To: MayflowerMadam

What was your reply? Did you end the relationship? I would and I am going to ask my physician that exact question in a couple of months when I go in for my semi-annual cancer surveillance appointment.

I kinda like my doctor, he’s a deacon in his church, vaxxed and he caught rona post vax, but he better answer correctly. Right now, I still have the ability to choose my medical providers and I’m my best advocate.


53 posted on 01/09/2022 6:57:55 AM PST by bigfootbob
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To: cyclotic

“Needless to say, I’m looking for a new doctor.”

I’m in a similar situation. I have a specialist who’s been a mask nazi since day one. I’ve played along, but I’m tired of being scolded by the office personnel. I told him, “I haven’t seen your face in two years, and you wouldn’t recognize me on the street. I’d rather have a doctor who wasn’t afraid of me.”

My GP has never worn a mask with me, and only does so if patients request it.


54 posted on 01/09/2022 6:59:46 AM PST by Not_Who_U_Think
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To: HamiltonJay

Really?

Where is the link citing this information about not immune?

Dr. Peter McCullough was Joe Rogan and stated there has not been one documented case where a person experienced COVID a second time.

In fact people who have experienced the first Sars COV-1, stll have immunity 17 years later...


55 posted on 01/09/2022 7:02:37 AM PST by HypatiaTaught ( Born Free, Live Free, Die Free)
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To: MayflowerMadam

RE: if the vaccine is so great, why are there far more COVID-19 deaths in 2021 with the vaccine than there were in 2020 — without it?”

Could it be because there was several months of lockdown in 2020 and there were no lockdowns in 2021?

Huge crowds in sports events are common in 2021, but not in 2020.

I’d like to see a comparison of deaths with LOCKDOWN AND NO VACCINES vs. LOCK DOWN WITH VACCINES.

Just speculating.


56 posted on 01/09/2022 7:04:01 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Kaslin

“It’s a nasty and contagious flu. “

Technically, it is a cold.


57 posted on 01/09/2022 7:06:18 AM PST by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: FamiliarFace

“What you say may be true, but if I happen to have an adverse event, I’d like to be able to sue the company that made the concoction. Until we can sue them, it shouldn’t be mandatory. I wish the real truth about CoVid was something that we could discern. I don’t trust the media, and I don’t trust our government.”

If you ran into me with your car, I would sue you. And you would call your insurance company, and their lawyers would handle the case. I would hopefully get a check from your insurer.

Your insurance policy contractually requires you to let the insurance company handle claim processing.

I read of ~21,000 Covid vaccine death claims and but haven’t seen even one single pathology report proving (or even claiming to prove) an alleged association.


58 posted on 01/09/2022 7:07:25 AM PST by Brian Griffin ( )
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To: cyclotic

Everyone knows that Ivermectin can’t help you with Covid because Trump cast a magic spell to prevent it from working.


59 posted on 01/09/2022 7:08:16 AM PST by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: HypatiaTaught

RE: Dr. Peter McCullough was Joe Rogan and stated there has not been one documented case where a person experienced COVID a second time.

Look, I support the good doctor and his policies, but on this point, he’s been proven wrong. Among my circle of friends, I know 3 who have recovered from Covid in 2020 who were reinfected in 2021 and recently in 2022.

Apparently, mutations are the gotcha here. As an analogy, Just because you recovered from flu or cold before doesn’t mean you won’t get them again.


60 posted on 01/09/2022 7:08:57 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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