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DOJ Announces New Rule for Firearm Safety and Storage
Epoch Times ^ | 1/5/2022 | By Katabella Roberts

Posted on 01/05/2022 9:03:49 AM PST by KeyLargo

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To: KeyLargo

Second Amendment

Second Amendment Annotated

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

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infringe

[ in-frinj ]

verb (used with object), in·fringed, in·fring·ing.
to commit a breach or infraction of; violate or transgress:
to infringe a copyright; to infringe a rule.
verb (used without object), in·fringed, in·fring·ing.
to encroach or trespass (usually followed by on or upon):
Don't infringe on his privacy.

21 posted on 01/05/2022 9:35:03 AM PST by Bratch
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To: ComputerGuy

Something else to ignore, there is a gun within reach in every room in my house, one is usually on my belt.


22 posted on 01/05/2022 9:35:03 AM PST by boomop1 (term limits NOW)
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To: Labyrinthos

We already have a similar law in WA. When buying or selling a gun, bring a spare gunlock to the store and slap it on the gun ... compliant. Otherwise, buy one from the FFL for a couple bucks.


23 posted on 01/05/2022 9:37:37 AM PST by RainMan (Democrats ... making war against America since April 12, 1861)
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To: KeyLargo

ALL new guns come with a cable lock.


24 posted on 01/05/2022 9:41:12 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin ( (Natural born citizens are born here of citizen parents)(Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: MercyFlush

This isn’t related to storage of guns in gun stores. It means gun dealers will have to offer gun safety devices or gun safes for sale. If simple trigger locks meet the requirements, then no problem. If it means gun dealers have to stock large gun safes for long arms, then it’s going to be a problem for shops (and pawn shops) without much floor space.

Gunsmiths hold FFL licenses. If the BATF tries to include all FFL holders in the regulations then it will put a lot of gunsmiths out of business.

This is meant as harrassment and you can bet the BATF is going to try to force the most expensive and inconvenient interpretation on FFL holders.


25 posted on 01/05/2022 9:43:13 AM PST by Roadrunner383 (;)
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To: Bratch

Well, the founders did not define “shall not be infringed” so we have no idea what they meant by that.........../s


26 posted on 01/05/2022 9:44:33 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin ( (Natural born citizens are born here of citizen parents)(Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: KeyLargo

as an FFL, this appears to me a nothing burger that allows dementia joe to claim he’s doing something about “gun violence” without actually doing anything ... there doesn’t appear to be any new requirement here other than the requirement for FFL’s to “certify” that they meet the existing requirements ... i’ll have to wait until the DoJ notifies me and see what they want ...


27 posted on 01/05/2022 9:47:32 AM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: KeyLargo

Uncle Adolf Garland must be starting to get a power buzz.


28 posted on 01/05/2022 9:54:21 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (You can vote your way into socialism but you have to shoot your way out of it.)
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To: KeyLargo
“Yo! Sir! Please inform me of the new rules so I can promptly comply.”


29 posted on 01/05/2022 9:56:16 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (81 million votes...and NOT ONE "Build Back Better" hat)
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To: KeyLargo

Since when does a law enforcement bureau get to also write laws? That is ALWAYS the hill to die on if you want America back within the bounds of the Constitution.


31 posted on 01/05/2022 10:05:12 AM PST by Glad2bnuts ((“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer,)
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To: Roadrunner383

“If simple trigger locks meet the requirements, then no problem.”

They do. See Post No. 15.


32 posted on 01/05/2022 10:08:43 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: KeyLargo

How are gun sellers supposed to know whether their customers will really follow the security practices that they claim they will follow? This is like telling car dealers to obtain an affidavit from buyers saying they will never drive impaired or otherwise irresponsibly. It is to pave the way for endless harrassment via lawsuits. It is intended to drive people out of the gun business.


33 posted on 01/05/2022 10:14:57 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: faithhopecharity

“Some kindly grandmother in Des Moines might obey this stupid illegal edict”

How many grandmothers in Des Moines have FFL’s?


34 posted on 01/05/2022 10:30:09 AM PST by TexasGator (UF)
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To: Pollard

It’s behind a paywall. I don’t even bother going there, anymore.


35 posted on 01/05/2022 10:34:47 AM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: TexasGator

about as many as will comply with this silly new edict


36 posted on 01/05/2022 10:46:40 AM PST by faithhopecharity (“Politicians are not born. They’re excreted.” Marcus Tillius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: KeyLargo
“a device incorporated into the design of the firearm that is designed to prevent the operation of the firearm by anyone not having access to the device,”

Sooo...if "anyone" has no access to the device, how is "anyone" deemed capable of operating the firearm?

37 posted on 01/05/2022 10:55:24 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Imagine, if you will, a vaccine so safe you have to be threatened to take it. )
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To: KeyLargo

I figure, as long as I don’t let Alec Baldwin borrow my handguns, they are SAFE!

FFL’s should be required to ask people if they intend to allow Alec Baldwin to borrow, or otherwise handle this weapon after purchase. Anything other than a resounding, “Hell no,” should be enough cause to end the sell!


38 posted on 01/05/2022 11:05:49 AM PST by ExTxMarine (Diversity is necessary; diverse points of views will not be tolerated.)
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To: Labyrinthos

“Secure gun storage or safety device. (1) A device that, when installed on a firearm, is designed to prevent the firearm from being operated without first deactivating the device;
(2) A device incorporated into the design of the firearm that is designed to prevent the operation of the firearm by anyone not having access to the device”

It sounds like they’re trying to reintroduce the “smart gun” concept. The smart gun was supposed to recognize only the “legal owner” and could not be fired by anyone else.


39 posted on 01/05/2022 11:27:15 AM PST by fightin kentuckian
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To: fightin kentuckian
(1) A device that, when installed on a firearm, is designed to prevent the firearm from being operated without first deactivating the device

I see a problem with the wording of this rule (besides the obviously bad wording of the second rule). If you have a trigger-lock on the gun, but leave the key in the lock then are you in compliance?

40 posted on 01/05/2022 11:40:32 AM PST by roadcat
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