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Trump fires up vaccine tensions
The Hill ^ | 12/30/21 06:01 AM EST | BY TAL AXELROD AND MAX GREENWOOD

Posted on 01/01/2022 2:59:02 AM PST by RandFan

Former President Trump is touting his administration's work in developing life-saving COVID-19 vaccines, putting him at odds with a portion of his base that is skeptical or opposed to the vaccines.

Trump in a speech and in a recent interview with conservative pundit Candice Owens defended his administration's work in developing the vaccines, suggesting it is a landmark achievement from his years in office for which he deserves credit.

“I came up with a vaccine, with three vaccines,” Trump told Owens. “All are very, very good. Came up with three of them in less than nine months. It was supposed to take five to 12 years.”

Trump also pushed back at Owens when she responded by saying that more people have died from COVID-19 since the vaccines were available — a period that mostly coincides with the Biden administration, since vaccines only became available weeks before Trump left office.

“Oh no, the vaccines work,” Trump said, adding that the people who “get very sick and go to the hospital” are unvaccinated — a point medical experts have been stressing for months.

“Look, the results of the vaccine are very good, and if you do get it, it’s a very minor form,” Trump continued. “People aren’t dying when they take the vaccine.”

Polls suggest a majority of Republicans back vaccines and are vaccinated, but it’s not a large majority.

A Kaiser Family Foundation report in September found that 58 percent of respondents identifying as Republicans had been vaccinated, compared to 90 percent of Democrats and 68 percent of independents.

A Gallup poll in September found 56 percent of Republicans had been vaccinated, compared to 92 percent of Democrats and 68 percent of independents.

A Fox News poll conducted in August found that roughly one-third of Trump voters had no plans to get vaccinated against COVID-19. More recently, an Economist-YouGov survey conducted last week found that 75 percent of unvaccinated Trump voters say they don’t plan to receive any of the approved COVID-19 shots.

A number of Republican officeholders have also cast doubt on the vaccines, noting that people who are vaccinated still get COVID-19.

Vaccines don’t completely eliminate a person’s chances of contracting the virus, but they do reduce it. They also drastically reduce the chances of hospitalization and death. Statistics from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention suggest unvaccinated people have a death rate 14 times the rate of vaccinated people from COVID-19.

Trump remains the leader of the Republican Party and would be the odds-on favorite to win the GOP presidential nomination in 2024 if he chooses to run, as he is actively flirting with doing.

That’s something that hasn’t been changed by the pandemic or a host of other issues, including the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol that led to Trump’s second impeachment.

Trump’s vocal support of vaccines likewise is not expected to change his support within the GOP, but it does raise questions about how the debate over vaccines will shake out if the former president continues to beat the drum.

Veteran GOP strategist Keith Naughton said he was “a little” surprised by Trump’s recent cheerleading of the vaccines, given the former president's claim earlier this year that he was unlikely to get a COVID-19 booster. But he said it also made political sense.

“On the surface it’s surprising. But when you think about it, it’s a sensible thing,” he said. “It’s a sign that he is running. I think he knows he can’t just be part of that extremist side, he’s got to branch out.”

Days before the Owens interview, Trump was booed by some in the crowd when he told conservative commentator Bill O'Reilly that he had received a COVID-19 vaccine booster shot.

The former president seemed frustrated, saying it was a mistake for people to turn against the vaccines and that it was smart to campaign on their development.

“Look, we did something that was historic, we saved tens of millions of lives worldwide. We, together, all of us, not me,” said Trump.

“Take credit for it. Take credit for it. It's great. What we've done is historic. Don't let them take it away. Don't take it away from ourselves. You are playing right into their hands when you sort of like, 'Oh, the vaccine,’” he added.

Some Republicans welcomed Trump’s remarks, saying it will help their party if they are not tagged with an anti-vaccine label. A few also think it could lead to more people getting vaccinated.

“Absolutely. Because what you had is just a crescendo of misinformation from the small but loud anti-vaccine voice,” one Trump ally said when asked if the remarks could lead to more Republicans getting vaccinated.

“For the past year, some of these fringe voices were allowed to speak, and then he didn't respond to it. Now he spoke, and now these fringe voices just realize how small their voices are compared to the former president of the United States.”

GOP pollster Robert Blizzard said if Trump does run, he needs to expand his base, as does his party. He and other sources suggested the recent messaging offered some potential for doing so.

The pro-vaccine remarks from Trump did not trigger a notable backlash, though Owens later suggested Trump was unable to adequately research the vaccines online because of his age. Infowars host Owen Shroyer said the remarks could “leave a bad taste in our mouth.”

Trump, like most Republicans, has opposed vaccine mandates, and it’s a certainty that this will be a battle line in elections going forward.

“If you don't want to take it, you shouldn't be forced to take it. No mandates,” he told O'Reilly.

“It's still their choice,” he told Owens.

It’s unclear how Trump plans to proceed talking about the vaccines, which would inevitably lead to conflict with parts of the right.

“There is a chunk of the base that just doesn’t trust the vaccines, and I think there was a real feeling that Trump was with them on that,” one Republican operative said. “I think hearing him actually point out that, you know, the vaccines are safe — there’s kind of this inherent tension with the anti-vax crowd who likes the president, who, rightly or wrongly, thinks he’s on their side.”

“It’s a weird dynamic,” the operative added.


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1 posted on 01/01/2022 2:59:02 AM PST by RandFan
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To: RandFan
“There is a chunk of the base that just doesn’t trust the vaccines, and I think there was a real feeling that Trump was with them on that,” one Republican operative said. “I think hearing him actually point out that, you know, the vaccines are safe — there’s kind of this inherent tension with the anti-vax crowd who likes the president, who, rightly or wrongly, thinks he’s on their side.”

President Trump is my political attack dog.

He's not my scientist, nor is he my health care professional.

2 posted on 01/01/2022 3:16:43 AM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: kiryandil

The only one I listened to was my long time Dr. Nobody else


3 posted on 01/01/2022 3:21:15 AM PST by digger48
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To: RandFan

These nimwits do not understand Trump supporters.

These nimwits think we are the same as their leftist supporters....blind, uninformed and braindead.

Trump supporters believe in real CHOICE....a personal choice to take the vaccine or not.

Trump supporters do not accept the mandates and coercion....and neither does Trump.

Trump’s support for the vaccines does not hurt his base at all.

But you cannot expect braindead, uninformed followers of socialism to comprehend this.


4 posted on 01/01/2022 3:30:25 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (We are being played by forces most do not understand)
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To: RandFan
“ — there’s kind of this inherent tension with the anti-vax crowd who likes the president, who, rightly or wrongly, thinks he’s on their side.”

President Trump enabled development of vaccines, monoclonals and the equipment hospitals needed. The furthest he would go for accommodation of the vax-hesitant was test or vaccinate - and he enabled tests and funded testing centers in every state - lots of them. Why on God's Green Earth would he turn his back on his own signature, and historic, accomplishment?

No, he's not on the antivax 'side'. And never has been.

5 posted on 01/01/2022 3:36:44 AM PST by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: Erik Latranyi

I’m pretty sure that his upcoming rally will have another overflowing crowd despite the concern media.

WuFlu or not.


6 posted on 01/01/2022 3:40:59 AM PST by digger48
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To: blueplum

Doing a 180 on vaccines is exactly what the media wants him to do.


7 posted on 01/01/2022 3:43:02 AM PST by digger48
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To: RandFan

8 posted on 01/01/2022 3:49:04 AM PST by McGruff
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To: blueplum

I wonder if Omicron was made in a lab as an airborne vaccine and spread worldwide.


9 posted on 01/01/2022 3:57:20 AM PST by Greg123456 (What are palm leaves called? Asking for a frond.)
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To: RandFan

Are they still misrepresenting that Candace Owens interview to gin up discontent in Trump’s base? Raise your hand if you’re dumb enough to fall for it.


10 posted on 01/01/2022 4:03:30 AM PST by Iowa Slim
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To: RandFan

This is very hard to find. If Trump weren’t incommunicado this statement would be very important,

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/news/news-mv6aj25mze1350

That is an incredibly effective statement and a winning campaign strategy. It has one major, correctable flaw. Trump does not address the shortfalls of the vaccine. He should acknowledge the potential side effects and urge caution on pushing for 100% vaxxed. He should state the obvious, if you’re young and healthy, do the risks outweigh the potential gain? As the public’s support for the vaxx continues to fade this strategy protects Trump plus it is the truth. An addendum to the statement should remind everyone that this current regime is incapable of the flexibility desperately needed on the vaccine. The originator, Trump, knew there would be shortfalls and is ready to use the vaccine in a thoughtful, safe manner.


11 posted on 01/01/2022 4:22:15 AM PST by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: kiryandil
President Trump was absolutely against misuse of the vaccines, which were created for our elderly and most vulnerable. Confined to those parameters they have been widely successful as well documented statistics from multiple sources support.

Beyond the initial parameters there needs to be more accountability. Mandating the use of a vaccination designed for a specific to group by applied to all groups is insanity on the best day. The intent is far worse and should be fought with every fiber in ones being.

Personal freedom on a private healthcare decision should always be the rule. Those who want to ignore that are the enemy.

Those that interfere with the real debate by tossing in wild conspiracy theories are distracting from the real point and causing irreparable harm by damaging credibility for the people who simply want their freedom of choice recognized. STOP IT!

12 posted on 01/01/2022 4:27:19 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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If Hillary won in 16 and was the force behind the vaccines, Trump would have entire sections of those whose loved one’s died from the jab at his next rally. Dr Mccollough, Dr. Zelenko, and Joe Rogan would be featured speakers.

He doesn’thave to outright condemn them, but just find a speechwriter with a little wisdom to humbly say that he did what felt he had to do but the vaccines are far from perfect. We have no national leader on the side of simple truth concerning covid, vaccines, masks, etc. and giving all sides to the story. All, including Trump, are looking thru a political lens only. And it really sucks.


13 posted on 01/01/2022 4:28:22 AM PST by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!I )
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To: RandFan

Defending the vaccines while advocating choice AND advocating therapeutics does not create any conflict with me.


14 posted on 01/01/2022 4:46:20 AM PST by jimfree (My 19 y/o granddaughter continues to have more quality exec experience than Joe Biden.)
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To: RandFan

Big Pharma has had this all planned. I bet they had the clot shots ready years ago.

Trump doesn’t even realize that they used him.


15 posted on 01/01/2022 5:05:47 AM PST by Baldwin77 (Democrats CANNOT win without violence and/or cheating)
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To: Baldwin77

I guess he was just kidding back in August when he had this to say.

Trump dismisses COVID-19 booster shots as a ‘money-making operation’ for Pfizer

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-dismisses-covid-19-booster-shots-as-money-making-operation-2021-8?op=1


16 posted on 01/01/2022 5:21:41 AM PST by Chunga85 (fatality rate 0.26)
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To: blueplum

He’s on the “Freedom of Choice” side


17 posted on 01/01/2022 5:22:35 AM PST by trebb (Fight like your life and future depends on it - because they do.)
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To: jimfree

I would like to see him go after Fauci for Gain of Function research. Talk about reforms at NIH.


18 posted on 01/01/2022 5:43:16 AM PST by teevolt
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To: RandFan

The left knows well that vaccines are the current third rail of politics. They will use it as a wedge issue until or if the truth is exposed.
Trump is either getting horrid advice about how to avoid this mire or he is unwilling to admit that he was hoodwinked by the swamp, Fauci, and big pharma. His “problem solving” has played into their hands. He needs a qualifier in support of vaccines. If he adds “informed consent and informed decisions” to his support of the vaccine, he opens a whole new inquiry into the Plandemic.


19 posted on 01/01/2022 6:09:24 AM PST by Steamburg (Other people's money is the only language a politician respects; starve the bastards)
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To: digger48
The only one I listened to was my long time Dr.

That's sound advice--my doctor actually cares about my health.

20 posted on 01/01/2022 6:12:14 AM PST by DaBroasta
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