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To: DugwayDuke

No, you’re the one who needs a second look. Once you conflate vaccination with an Unconstitutional mandate, you have essentially admitted that your opposition is on the mandate and not religion.

Then your claim that the religion of should justify a religious objection. Can you provide proof that the Flying Spaghetti Monster objects to vaccination or are you just making stuff up to justify no vaccination?

Essentially, these ‘religious objections’ are the same as a claim for conscientious objector status which must be justified.


Uh no I don’t need to re-evaluate my position?

Seriously?????

Are you saying a person of faith cannot sincerely be against mandates and the jabs based on their faith if they also believe the mandates are Unconstitutional??? Why not??? I do—I am a person of faith and a person who believes in the Constitution and that the mandates are UnConstitutional. I am pretty sure there are plenty of us here on FR BTW.

However, I never mentioned that as being the position of my family member who is seeking the exemption. Actually, the family member did not mention Constitutionality in their R.E. They mentioned things related to their faith, Body being God’s temple—Jesus is a healer, etc...positions of faith that are in the Bible? Read it? However, they also feel the mandated jabs are Unconstitutional. Again, seriously? So what!

And guess you missed that the family member had to turn in pages of justification...nothing about the Constitution—all about their faith, their beliefs, are they pro-life? how beliefs play out in their daily life, what drugs they have used, etc...all things that would never be asked in a job interview.

I don’t have to follow what any pastor or denomination says if it does not align with what I read in the Bible and where the Holy Spirit leads—I have attended many churches over the years and have occasionally disagreed with my pastors—just like I disagree with the Pope on his interpretations of God’s Word....But I don’t depend on a pastor or a denomination for saving grace—I follow the Lord and what I read in the Bible. Nor do I answer to you or employers regarding my faith, it is not for you or employer to judge.

And again, you misunderstood. It is not about Religion—which is why I noted Flying Spaghetti Monster Church...Point is I don’t care whether or not the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster supports vaccines. And an employer should not because faith and beliefs don’t have to be contingent on denomination...Ex. There are many good Catholics who vehemently disagree with some of the global environmentalism and pro-vax stance the Pope is pushing...and you are saying they are not allowed to have a R.E.? Uh no.

I am not making stuff up...and I really resent that comment...Again, I didn’t say I follow the CFSM, I just don’t think it should matter whether I am Catholic, Protestant, Evangelical, Charismatic, Buddhist, Hindu, or Muslim. It is about faith—not denomination. I think the exemption would be better named “Faith” Exemptions.

As the expression goes: Going to church on Sunday does not make a person a Christian any more than standing in the garage on Sunday makes them a car. It is about faith, a relationship with God, and a daily walk—not church attendance/denomination.

Sorry DugwayDuke, I don’t think you are able to comprehend what I am saying...I just find it bad form to diss people including Fellow Freepers who are people of faith implying they are frauds.

Must feel odd to be on same side as Brandon and his UnConstitutional Regime...

Sooo Done. Have nice evening


29 posted on 12/30/2021 6:06:23 PM PST by Freedom56v2 (It's not the job of the unvaxxed to protect the vaxxed. That's the job of the "vaccine.")
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To: Freedom56v2

Freedom56v2 wrote: “Are you saying a person of faith cannot sincerely be against mandates and the jabs based on their faith if they also believe the mandates are Unconstitutional???”

I’m saying that it is quite the coincidence that those who were opposed to this vaccine prior to the mandate suddenly developed religion after the mandate. Very similar to those who discovered they were conscientious objectors because of their religion after they received a draft notice.

Do you see the difference between those who truly have religious objections and those who are hiding behind religion to escape the consequences of their refusal to vaccinate?

An example would be those who claim the vaccines are manufactured from aborted babies which simply isn’t true but gives the patina of religion.


31 posted on 12/31/2021 7:13:20 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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