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To: DugwayDuke
Thanks for the clarification.

Not that you need/want to troll through my history, but I've thrown the flag when people say the shots are ineffective or have zero efficacy. That's factually untrue, especially over the short timeframes about which we are talking, i.e. a few months. Concurrently, assuming that VE should be 100% or no shot should be approved is ridiculous.

That said, the shots were granted EUA and the only approved vaccine in the US (Comirnaty) were authorized for PREVENTION. NOT for lessened severity, etc. Maybe they lessen severity, but that's not the basis of approval. If that basis erodes, revoking approval should be on the table.

55 posted on 12/29/2021 4:21:55 PM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: DoodleBob

DoodleBob wrote: “That said, the shots were granted EUA and the only approved vaccine in the US (Comirnaty) were authorized for PREVENTION. NOT for lessened severity, etc. Maybe they lessen severity, but that’s not the basis of approval. If that basis erodes, revoking approval should be on the table.”

I appreciate your throwing the flags as appropriate.

Suppose you’re correct. Don’t you agree that ‘lessened severity, etc.,’ are good things? Why would we revoke approval even if that’s all they accomplish? Doesn’t ‘lessened severity’ also include saving lives?


56 posted on 12/29/2021 4:38:15 PM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DoodleBob

Here’s one study that says the vaccines do more than lessen severity:

Summary
Unvaccinated 12-34 year-olds in Washington are
• 3 times more likely to get COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 12-34 year-olds.
• 12 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 12-34
year-olds.
Unvaccinated 35-64 year-olds are
• 4 times more likely to get COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 35-64 year-olds.
• 18 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 35-64
year-olds.
Unvaccinated 65+ year-olds are
• 7 times more likely to get COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 65+ year-olds.
• 13 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 65+ yearolds.
• 15 times more likely to die of COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 65+ year-olds

https://www.doh.wa.gov/Portals/1/Documents/1600/coronavirus/data-tables/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf


57 posted on 12/29/2021 4:40:01 PM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DoodleBob

They’re for prevention? Isn’t 98% of the NFL players fully vaxxed, but now there’s almost 200 of them coming down with it. Pretty strong evidence that it doesn’t prevent contracting the virus.


58 posted on 12/29/2021 4:49:04 PM PST by Kevmo (I’m immune from Covid since I don’t watch TV.🤗)
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