Posted on 12/27/2021 3:20:17 PM PST by MNDude
A study guide for high school students, produced by the BBC, for example, hints at this idea. It suggests that the term Messiah may not be helpful because it might “confusing[ly]” evoke ideas of earthly monarchy. It would be a “misleading,” it seems, to think of the messiah as a political earthly figure.
Out of this crucial distinction have grown other antisemitic sentiments and ideas: namely, that Jews couldn’t understand their own scriptures. Jews of Jesus’s day, the argument goes, may have been anticipating a political messiah, but they were fundamentally wrong. The Christian website gotquestions.org, for example, connects this supposed misunderstanding about the Messiah to an even more troublesome idea: the Jewish rejection of Jesus. The website reads, “The Jews rejected Jesus because He failed, in their eyes, to do what they expected their Messiah to do—destroy evil and all their enemies and establish an eternal kingdom with Israel as the preeminent nation in the world. The prophecies in Isaiah 53 and Psalm 22 describe a suffering Messiah who would be persecuted and killed, but the Jews chose to focus instead on those prophecies that discuss His glorious victories, not His crucifixion.”
(At risk of being a pedant, although they are important passages for Christians, we should note that neither Isaiah 53 nor Psalm 22 refer to a crucified messiah. It thus seems unfair to imply that Jewish interpreters were overlooking something. You have to have a suffering messiah to read these texts this way.) The bigger problem here is the idea that Jews rejected Jesus: Jesus himself and all his first followers were Jews. Historically, the idea that Jews rejected Jesus has been linked to the dangerous and erroneous idea that “the Jews” were responsible for killing the messiah.
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https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-way-we-think-about-the-messiah-is-very-problematic
Oh, this thread is going to be fun...
Jews did accept Jesus as the messiah.
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Well, yeah. Almost all of the New Testament was written by Jews.
Doesn’t the Talmud mention Jesus being boiled in something?
“I’ll say it’s problematic” commented J. Christ of Jerusalem, Israel in 33 AD.
Jesus is problematic. We knew that.
Yeshua was a popular name in Second Temple times, noted in Chronicles and other books describing that era. Claiming every reference to someone named Yeshua refers to the Christian Jesus is dubious speculation if not intentionally misleading.
And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise. Galatians 3:29
Jerusalem was destroyed because of baseless hatred. That is the consensus of the Sages. That Yeshua could have been the victim of the same is not a stretch. Neither is it unimaginable to a growing coterie of scholars that he could well have been a Tzaddik. What breaks the bank is the claim that Shimon Kefa made on Shavuot: that Yeshua had ascended to God (in itself not unprecedented) but ALSO had obtained the authority to pour out the Ruach HaKodesh, The Holy Spirit.
Except the ones who did and along with gentile converts were the start of the Church we have today.
Bkmrk
Another attack on Christians by liberals who neither want Moses nor the Christ of whom he spoke.
Historically, the idea that Jews rejected Jesus has been linked to the
The Crucifixion and persecution of Christians, both Jewish and Gentile (equal opportunity oppressors). "Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost." (1 Thessalonians 2:16) Yet evangelicals are the most pro-Israel group, and opponents of anti-Semitic liberals.
Christianity did not change the definition of messiah; it just chose from among the available ancient Jewish definitions, then added its own details to the developing tradition.
Meaning it recognized the true messiah and mission among mistaken ones, and manifested, documented and substantiated it. To the angst of liberals.
He’s either your savior, or as C. L. Lewis put it, you think he’s either a lunatic or a liar.
And THAT will be problematic.
Bank? Associating Jews with greed?! Now YOU will be called anti-Semitic! (by liberals who are).
But his citizens hated him, and sent a message after him, saying, We will not have this man to reign over us. (Luke 19:14)
RE #7: That story is is not in the Talmud. It is in the “Toledot Yeshu”, or “Book of the History of Christ” that was probably written centuries after Christ died.
The article isn’t surprising. Before the anti-Christ appears, the press will redefine the meanings of Messiah to prepare the world for the imposter’s appearance.
The Kingdom of Heaven is a physical, earthly kingdom.
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