Posted on 12/23/2021 10:53:50 AM PST by RomanSoldier19
Hard to argue with him. Look how we reacted to the Soviets putting missiles in Cuba. Why would we not expect the Russians to do the same, when we go in their backyard.
I make the deal. The Russians promise hands off on states already in NATO, in exchange for our pledging that Ukraine will never be a NATO member. Just as we did with Austria in exchange for the Soviets leaving their sector of the country after the war.
What could we get in exchange? He sounds desperate.Carter gave up the neutron bomb and got nothing.
As soon as Biden wakes up he get right on it , forget Harris she’s out of town
The west will gauge whether or not they can call Putin’s gambit a bluff or actual threat. I suspect they will punt in someway, trying to make the Russian border buildup cost Putin over time without giving Putin all he wants.
Ukraine joining NATO would put German troops just about where they were in 1942-3.
Frankly, I understand Russia’s position. Historically, Russia is both a paranoid country as well as one that seeks respect. The latter could be that it was never fully accepted in European circles.
I do not know what our issue is with Ukraine—why do we have such a hard on for that country and all the shenigans we have played a part in there...
And for Europe itself to rely on Russian nat gas....
Given China and the Muslims, Russia should be somewhat of an ally.
Ukraine in NATO?
Not just no, but he!! NO!!!
Jeeze. Forever war, inc, is chomping at the bit. “Spend that ammo! We’ll make moar!!!”
Generals and Majors always seem so unhappy unless they got a war.
Hmmm, I wonder what the result will be?
Not in favor of Ukraine becoming part of NATO, but we should tell the homicidal tyrant running Russia to go **** himself.
Never heard that perspective before.
The swallowing of Ukraine by the DC deep-state has been a corrupt disaster for the USA as whole.
Their neocon anti-Russia propaganda, particularly used against Trump for 3 years, has been so pervasive, many conservatives unwittingly have it has a default setting in their brains.
True, because European Nations' main focus since the middle ages has been to Control Russia and use Russian Resources (including the Russian Population) to decide the outcome of the unending European Wars.
sounds like Austria’s ultimatum to Serbia in 1914
German troops just about where they were in 1942-3.
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But with a tiny fraction of the personnel and vehicles, and virtually no budget.
NATO is well past its “expiration date”. The Europeans should be able to defend Europe.
PUTIN: “We are not the ones that deploy missiles next to the U.S. borders. That’s the other way around...What would Americans do if we went to the border between Canada and the U.S. or to the border with Mexico and deploy our missiles there?”
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1474073981242298370
They’d do well to heed what Putin’s saying.....he generally does what he says when he’s put in the position he’s been warning about all along....his red line means that.
The Ukraine government is a Corrupt Mess.
The Ukraine people deserve a break from war on this one.
They stil remember the Holodomor. (death by starvation) Stalin did that.
And Slo Joe Biden’s handlers would love to do that to US.
It is not going to happen where I live, but many cities are ripe for the picking. And the #ComDem’s are just like the rest of the Commie B_tards.
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