Posted on 12/22/2021 2:30:57 AM PST by tlozo
Russian President Vladimir Putin has blamed the West for increasing tensions in Eastern Europe and suggested a “military-technical” response if his request for security guarantees is not met — while a media mouthpiece for the Kremlin warned that Russia will hold a gun to “America’s head” if Ukraine is allowed to join NATO.
In a speech Tuesday to Russian defense ministry officials, Putin said Moscow needs “long-term, legally binding guarantees” from the West that the US and NATO will not deploy missile systems in Ukraine, rather than “verbal assurances.”
Russia has massed as many as 175,000 troops as well as heavy military equipment on its western border with Ukraine, a move that many fear is a prelude to an invasion as early as next month.
Putin said NATO has continued to expand its footprint in Europe since the end of the Cold War despite assurances from the West that Moscow’s fears of encroachment are groundless...
Dmitry Kiselev, a Putin confidant and the head of state-controlled media outlet Rossiya Segodnya, took a more militant approach in an interview with the BBC.
He said if the West fails to deliver the security guarantees, Russia will “deploy missiles.”
“But this is your choice. We don’t want this,” Kiselev said in the interview published on Monday.
“If Ukraine ever joins NATO or if NATO develops military infrastructure there, we will hold a gun to America’s head. We have the military capability,” he said...
(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
Are you even able to coherently explain how we're doing this?*
*Existing is not aggression to Russia.
WTF, are you stupid? Ukraine has a fraction of Russia's military. What weapons they have received from us are suitable for defense, and at that, only against the ground troops that are constantly shooting at Ukrainians from Donetsk, not invading Russia.
Russia's constant harassments, and violations of their own agreements, by the way, has been documented by the OSCE:
https://osce.usmission.gov/on-russias-ongoing-aggression-against-ukraine-and-illegal-occupation-of-crimea-22/
Or just find a garage door that has a pull rope with a knot in the end of it and then call or better yet send a pic in a Text to “blubba the amazing” (winning because of a rain 🌧 storm ☔️ NUTSCAR professional taxi driver) and the entire fibbies flock West of the Mississippi River will be right there in a few hours.
***Now donâÂÂt forget, the Ukrainians paid a lot of money to get the Biden family on their side.***
FYI, the Ukrainians that the Bidens and Hillary were doing deals with were the PRO-RUSSIA faction. The owner of Burisma is a Putin ally.
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Rudy Giuliani, Sean Hannity show, Fox News, May 2019...
GIULIANI: He [Hunter Biden] was working for the most corrupt company in the Ukraine [Burisma]. He was working for [Mykola Zlochevsky] a Ukrainian oligarch who was being protected by Putin. The same Putin that we have been hearing about for all this time, right? Imagine that.
GIULIANI [continuing]: Putin’s friend was paying JoeâÂÂs son three, four, five, possibly more, millions of dollars. And he got under investigation. And Joe bragged two years later that he got the prosecutor general fired. He just left out of it that the prosecutor general was investigating his son and his son’s crooked boss [Putin’s friend]. And then afterwards, the case disappeared.”
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Massive bribe to stop Ukraine probe of Burisma founder intercepted
by Bradford Betz | Fox News | June 14, 2020
[excerpt]
Ukrainian officials on Saturday announced they intercepted a $6 million bribe attempt to stop a criminal investigation into the president of Burisma ...âÂÂ
[Ukraine’s anti-corruption prosecutor Nazar] Kholodnitsky and the head of the national anti-corruption bureau, Artem Sytnik, said the bribe was intended to encourage their offices to halt a probe of Mykola Zlochevsky, the head of Burisma and a former minister of ecology. ...”
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“PRO-RUSSIAN corrupt officials”
âÂÂRudy Giuliani
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Giuliani: “The fact is, this was a massive collusion between the Democratic National Committee, officials of the Obama administration, (Hillary) Clinton people, and the Ukrainian officials, corrupt officials â who, by the way, were pro-Russian corrupt officials”
Putin flunky warns Russia will put ‘gun to America’s head’ as tensions grow
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Putin will have to get in line behind the American Left if he wants to “put a gun to America’s head”.
Total insanity, short of a hot war (which Russia would lose) that is not going to happen.
After Beslan I'm not a big fan of Chechnya. Or any of the other Islamic republics Russia has to deal with.
FYI, Russia and China have been tag team partners since the late 1990s, when they agreed on a joint mission to establish a “new international order”. They’ve been conducting large-scale joint war games since 2005.
From the Sino-Russian Joint Statement of April 23, 1997:
“The two sides [China and Russia] shall, in the spirit of partnership, strive to promote the multipolarization of the world and the establishment of a new international order.”
THE HUNGRY BEAR - PART 5: Russia, China ‘cooking something up’
By W Joseph Stroupe | Sept 29, 2006
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“Joint war games are a logical outcome of the Sino-Russian Friendship and Cooperation Treaty signed in 2001, and reflect the shared worldview and growing economic ties between the two Eastern Hemisphere giants.”
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The Treaty of Good-Neighborliness and Friendly Cooperation Between the People’s Republic of China and the Russian Federation (FCT) is a twenty-year strategic treaty that was signed by the leaders of the two international powers, Jiang Zemin and Vladimir Putin, on July 16, 2001.
On June 28, 2021, Russia and China extended the treaty for another 5 years after it expires in February 2022.[1][2]
The treaty outlines the broad strokes which are to serve as a basis for peaceful relations, economic cooperation, as well as diplomatic and geopolitical reliance.
Controversially, Article 9 of the treaty can be seen as an implicit defense pact, and other articles (A7 and A16) point at increasing military cooperation, including the sharing of “military know-how” (A16), namely, Chinese access to Russian military technology.”
Wikipedia
I was born in 1950, and I couldn’t agree with you more.
Proxy wars are one thing. Stupid, costly, but the big boys stay in the silos.
This is a DIRECT AND DELIBERATE provocation against a vital Russian national interest. There’s no excuse for it, none at all.
There may be ties of some sort between Ukraine leaders and prominent Democrats, Hillary being one. Hints along this line sometimes show up in stories about the the Russia hoax. It’s murky like everything else involving Clinton and that story but if there’s something to it that could explain the odd willingness to blunder into a war with Russia.
FYI, the Ukrainians Hillary and the Bidens were working with were the PRO-RUSSIA faction. There are 2 opposing factions in the Ukraine. One supportive of Putin and Russia, the other, just the opposite. The owner of Burisma, for example, is a Putin ally. In fact, he was an official in the puppet regime that Putin had installed in the Ukraine via a rigged election. Putin has been protecting him, going so far as to offer the Ukrainians a $6 million dollar bribe to call off the investigation.
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Rudy Giuliani, Sean Hannity show, Fox News, May 2019...
GIULIANI: He [Hunter Biden] was working for the most corrupt company in the Ukraine [Burisma]. He was working for [Mykola Zlochevsky] a Ukrainian oligarch who was being protected by Putin. The same Putin that we have been hearing about for all this time, right? Imagine that.
GIULIANI [continuing]: Putin's friend was paying Joe's son three, four, five, possibly more, millions of dollars. And he got under investigation. And Joe bragged two years later that he got the prosecutor general fired. He just left out of it that the prosecutor general was investigating his son and his son's crooked boss [Putin's friend]. And then afterwards, the case disappeared."
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Massive bribe to stop Ukraine probe of Burisma founder intercepted
by Bradford Betz | Fox News | June 14, 2020
[excerpt]
Ukrainian officials on Saturday announced they intercepted a $6 million bribe attempt to stop a criminal investigation into the president of Burisma ..."
[Ukraine's anti-corruption prosecutor Nazar] Kholodnitsky and the head of the national anti-corruption bureau, Artem Sytnik, said the bribe was intended to encourage their offices to halt a probe of Mykola Zlochevsky, the head of Burisma and a former minister of ecology. ..."
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"PRO-RUSSIAN corrupt officials"
--Rudy Giuliani
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Giuliani: âÂÂThe fact is, this was a massive collusion between the Democratic National Committee, officials of the Obama administration, (Hillary) Clinton people, and the Ukrainian officials, corrupt officials, who, by the way, were pro-Russian corrupt officials"
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"Burisma Holdings is owned by Brociti Investments Limited, a Cyprus-based company owned by Ukrainian former politician and businessman Mykola Zlochevsky.
Zlochevsky was minister of natural resources under Viktor Yanukovych, the [RUSSIA-ALLIED] president of Ukraine.[34]
Brociti Investments acquired Burisma Holdings in 2011.[35] Before that acquisition, Mykola Zlochevsky and Mykola Lisin each owned a 50% interest in Burisma Holdings.[12][35][36]
Lisin, a Ukrainian politician, died in a traffic accident in 2011.[36] ..."
--Wikipedia
***There may be ties of some sort between Ukraine leaders and prominent Democrats, Hillary being one. Hints along this line sometimes show up in stories about the the Russia hoax.***
You apparently didn’t hear, but the primary subsource for the Steele Dossier, Igor Danchenko, was a Russian spy. His job was to dig up dirt on TRUMP, not Hillary!
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Steele’s Dossier Source Was a Suspected Russian Spy
Andrew C. McCarthy, National Review, Sept 26, 2020
In an effort to depict Donald Trump as if he were in an espionage conspiracy with the Kremlin, the Obama administration used bogus information, from a man the FBI suspected was an actual Russian spy.
It turns out that Igor Danchenko, the man the FBI suspected of being an actual Russian spy, initially provided the bogus information about the American, Carter Page, through a former British spy, Christopher Steele.
Through a couple of cut-outs, Steele had been retained by the Clinton campaign to dig up - or, alas, to make up - Russian dirt on Trump.
Through his private intelligence business in London, Steele was known to be working for Russian oligarchs, while Danchenko was on Steele’s payroll.
That is, the Clinton campaign, and ultimately the Obama administration, colluded with Russians for the purpose of accusing Donald Trump of . . . yes . . . colluding with Russians.”
âÂÂAndrew C. McCarthy, National Review, Sept 26, 2020
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Senator Lindsey Graham (R), Chairman, Senate Judiciary Committee
July 27, 2020:
“He [Igor Danchenko, working for Christopher Steele] calls up a bunch of people in Russia.
Who do you think this information came from? It came from the Russian intelligence service.”
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Rep. Devin Nunes (R-California), Ranking Member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, on Robert Mueller’s May 29, 2019 press conference...
Nunes: “Well, he [Mueller] should have been gone after day two. He has no Russians, except for the Fusion and Clinton Russians, and possibly the dirty cop, the FBI’s Russians, those are the only Russians that he has, to show ‘connections’ to the Trump campaign.
Clearly, the Clinton operation is heavily working with Russians or Russian disinformation.
He didn’t take time to look into any of that”
***WE and Ukraine ARE the aggressors. We’re creating an absolutely unnecessary confrontation with Russia while ignoring the real threat — China. You’re the fool for buying into what we’re doing it.***
FYI, the increasingly close military alliance between Russia and China goes back to the days of Bill Clinton’s ChinaGate scandal of the late 1990s, where he was caught literally “red-handed” passing along sophisticated weapons technology to Communist China. This included our (America’s) nuclear weapons secrets and advanced missile guidance technology. Russia and China soon after agreed to go about establishing a “new international order”. They’ve been conducting large-scale joint war games since 2005 in several key locations around the world.
Below are but a few examples of the ongoing military alliance between Russia and communist China...
From the Sino-Russian Joint Statement of April 23, 1997:
“The two sides [China and Russia] shall, in the spirit of partnership, strive to promote the multipolarization of the world and the establishment of a new international order.”
THE HUNGRY BEAR: PART 5: Russia, China “cooking something up”
By W Joseph Stroupe | Sept 29, 2006
https://web.archive.org/web/20170721060215/http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/HI29Ag01.html
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“Joint war games are a logical outcome of the Sino-Russian Friendship and Cooperation Treaty signed in 2001, and reflect the shared worldview and growing economic ties between the two Eastern Hemisphere giants. ...”
War Games: Russia, China Grow Alliance
Sept 23rd, 2005
In foreign policy it’s critical to ‘know thine enemy.’ So American policymakers should be aware that Russia and China are inching closer to identifying a common enemy - the United States.
The two would-be superpowers held unprecedented joint military exercises Aug. 18-25 [2005]. Soothingly named ‘Peace Mission 2005,’ the drills took place on the Shandong peninsula on the Yellow Sea, and included nearly 10,000 troops. Russian long-range bombers, the army, navy, air force, marine, airborne and logistics units from both countries were also involved.
Moscow and Beijing claim the maneuvers were aimed at combating terrorism, extremism and separatism (the last a veiled reference to Taiwan), but it’s clear they were an attempt to counter-balance American military might. ...”
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Sept 11, 2014
China and Russia to build major seaport: report
China and Russia will build one of the largest ports in north-east Asia on Russia’s Sea of Japan coast, reports say, in a further sign of the powerhouses’ growing alliance.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-11/china-and-russia-to-build-major-seaport-report/5738036
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First Russia-China naval war games underway in Mediterranean
By Carol J. Williams | May 11, 2015
Reporting from Moscow — Neither Russia nor China has one inch of coastline on the Mediterranean Sea, making it an unlikely and provocative venue for their first joint naval war games.
The 10 days of maneuvers that got underway Monday will include live-fire exercises in the strategic sea connecting Europe, Africa and the Middle East.
The point is lost on no one: A powerful new alliance of eastern giants is flexing its muscles in the very backyard of Western Europe — much as China has done on its own in the Pacific.
The war games follow Chinese President Xi Jinping’s visit to Moscow, where he headlined Victory Day celebrations and spent three days making billion-dollar deals with Russian President Vladimir Putin. ...”
https://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-china-russia-joint-naval-maneuvers-20150511-story.html
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THIS YEAR! (2021)
See Russia and China launch joint military drills
By Vladimir Isachenkov, The Associated Press
Aug 13, 2021
MOSCOW — Russia’s defense minister on Friday hailed joint war games with China this week [Aug 2021] as a sign of increasingly close military cooperation that should expand further.
Sergei Shoigu flew to China to attend the drills that wrapped up Friday in the Ningxia Hui Autonomous Region.
“We have achieved a high level of cooperation between our militaries on land, in the air and at sea,” Shoigu said during a meeting with his Chinese counterpart, “Expanding it is an important part of our future activities.”
The Russian military sent several Su-30SM fighters and a motorized infantry unit to take part in the maneuvers.
Shoigu noted that the exercise marked the first time that Russian troops had taken part in joint drills on the territory of China, adding that it reflected a “new level” of military cooperation, to the benefit of regional and global stability. ...”
***After Beslan I’m not a big fan of Chechnya. Or any of the other Islamic republics Russia has to deal with.***
Re: OBAMA IRAN DEAL
Obama allowing Iran to purchase uranium from Russia
by Daniel Horowitz | January 10, 2017
[prior to Trump’s Jan 20th inauguration]
Remember those side deals Obama forged with Iran that were not part of the text of the official treaty? [ie, Iran Deal] Now we are finding out some of the details.
Yesterday [Jan 2017], the Washington Free Beacon reported that Iranian officials confirmed they have received at least $10 billion in cash, commodities, and assets from Washington since 2013. And that is likely a conservative estimate [turned out to be $150 BILLION!].
But cash is not the only thing the Islamic Republic of Iran is receiving for gracing us with their willingness to sign onto our own capitulation.
The AP is reporting that Russia, with the support of President Obama, is shipping Iran 116 metric tons of natural uranium. ...”
We've pushed the Russians into the arms of the Chinese with the endless sanctions and aggression we've shown toward them.
Russia could be a tremendous ally and aid is us in counterbalancing China. But, our policies have prevent us from even having civil relations with them.
Knowingly or not, you're on board with an insane foreign policy toward Russia that has aggressively been pushed by Obama, Biden and George Soros.
Notice we didn't have this sort of tension with Russia under Trump.
The Democrat hoax was worse than just lies about so-called “Trump-Russia collusion”. It was a deliberate/planned COVER to hide what they themselves was doing...colluding with Russians!
The Russians may be evil, but they certainly aren’t stupid.
OF COURSE, as the evidence now shows, they wanted Hillary Clinton to win the 2016 presidential election! This was obvious well before the democrats’ “Trump-Russia collusion” hoax ever began.
Putin is in the process of basically bringing back the Soviet Union, and then-some with the addition of strategic positions in the oil/gas-rich Middle East. The last thing on earth that Russia wants or needs now is a strong US military, as would obviously be/was the case with Trump-Pence.
Russia continues to this day heavily arming hard Left, US-hostile regimes, such as communist China, North Korea, Venezuela, Cuba, Nicaragua...
OF COURSE Russia would many times prefer a White House admin who would continue the pathetically weak on defense, Russia/China/Iran appeasement policies of Obama-Biden!
The Obama-Biden-Hillary-John Kerry admin repeatedly bent over backwards appeasing Putin on such critical things as Obama’s promised and delivered “flexibility” on missile defense, the Russia-favoring New Start nuke treaty, the Putin-loving Iran deal (Iran and Syria are pawns of Russia in the oil/gas-rich Middle East), and the treasonous Uranium One deal, where Hillary and Obama allowed Russia to take control of, what some say, 20% of our uranium production!! And now it’s the Nord Stream pipeline that Biden gifted his pal Putin!
And if all that weren’t enough, Obama-Biden devastated OUR military with their drastic spending cuts! The 2016 election was of critical importance to the Russians, and to their allies, communist China, Iran, North Korea, Venezuela, Cuba, Nicaragua...
The phony, lying, slime ball, Left continue alleging "Trump-Russia collusion". Truth is, Russia is in bed with the far left here and abroad! They are in the same camp with the Socialist/Communist wing of the Democrat Party and radical left groups here in the US, such as so-called "Black Lives Matter"!
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[excerpt]
"...while Black Lives Matter claim to oppose police abuse and racism around the world, the organization is simultaneously a great supporter of some of the world’s most brutal and repressive dictators. In particular, the founders of BLM have been staunch supporters and allies of the sanguinary Venezuela dictator Nicolas Maduro and of the Castro regime in Cuba.
In December 2015 Black Lives Matter sent a delegation, headed by the organization's co-founder, Opal Tometi, to act as observers during the Venezuelan Parliamentary elections of that year. The Maduro regime did not allow accreditation for observers from the Organization of American States, the UN, or the EU. The only accredited observers where from regimes and organizations friendly to the "revolutionary cause."
Later that same month Tometi penned an article where she espouses, word for word, the regime's standard text for international propaganda.
"In these last 17 years, we have witnessed the Bolivarian Revolution champion participatory democracy and construct a fair, transparent election system recognized as among the best in the world," wrote Tometi about one of the world's most corrupt voting systems in history.
Earlier in 2015 Maduro was given an award at the Afro-descendants Summit" held in Harlem. Maduro was invited at the behest of the Black Lives Matter leadership. ..."
[Venezuelan President] Nicolas Maduro with Opal Tometi (right), co-founder
of Black Lives Matter, in Harlem, Manhattan, December 2015.
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Also in 2015...
Russia agreed to provide military training for three leftist regimes in Latin America and increase military visits and exercises following a visit last week to the region by Moscow's Defense Minister Sergei Shoygu, Pentagon officials said.
Shoygu met with defense and military leaders in Cuba, Venezuela, and Nicaragua and signed several agreements on warship visits and military training during the visit, which ran from Feb 11 to 14.
It is not clear whether any new arms deals were completed during the visit.
Defense officials said the Russian leader is seeking bases in the region for strategic bomber flights that Shoygu recently promised would include flights over the Gulf of Mexico and Caribbean. ..."
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2020...
Russia has pledged to boost military and economic co-operation with Venezuela to help the South American nation deal with growing US pressure.
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov’s comments came after his meeting with Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro in Caracas.
Mr Lavrov said any attempts to remove Mr Maduro’s government by force were unacceptable.
The US accuses Mr Maduro of leading a corrupt and brutal regime. ..."
"Russia is a key ally of Venezuela, lending it billions of dollars and backing its oil industry and military."
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By Lara Seligman | April 8, 2019
As U.S. President Donald Trump’s national security team mulls a military intervention to oust Venezuela's strongman president, Nicolás Maduro, the Pentagon is watching China's commercial and financial creep in the crisis-gripped nation with growing alarm.
In an interview with Foreign Policy, Adm. Craig Faller, the four-star military officer who heads U.S. Southern Command, pointed to a Chinese disinformation campaign designed to blame the United States for the blackouts that devastated Venezuela in recent weeks. ..."
Maduro, whose government is backed by China, Russia, and Cuba, has himself publicly accused the U.S. Defense Department of causing the blackouts. Following the power failures, Beijing offered to help the Venezuelan government restore its grid. ...”
Putin openly supports the traditional Christian values that Russia is rooted in. He opposes gay marriage, the promotion of homosexuality and has vocally spoken out against the madness of the transgender agenda.
This anti-Russia insanity is pure propaganda and has the potential to get us into an absolutely unnecessary military conflict with Russia.
All Russia wants from us is for us to leave them alone and stop using Ukraine as battering ram to harass them.
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