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Russia threatens war unless US abandons eastern NATO allies
Washington Examiner ^ | December 17, 2021 | Joel Gehrke

Posted on 12/18/2021 5:40:44 AM PST by tlozo

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To: tlozo

We should either put up or shut up. We have what, something like 5,000 troops, if that, in the Baltics. Bring it up to 500,000, or pull them out...they’re USELESS at that level.


21 posted on 12/18/2021 6:46:42 AM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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To: Thunder90

“Don’t be surprised when the Chinese make similar demands of our forces in the Pacific.”

Absolutely, not even debatable.


22 posted on 12/18/2021 6:47:20 AM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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To: tlozo
Upwards of 90% of Americans couldn't find any of these countries on a map.

Why, pray tell, should any of us feel any compunction to shed blood for them?

23 posted on 12/18/2021 6:51:12 AM PST by Captain Walker ("The side that has Truth gets Humor as a bonus.")
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To: Captain Walker

....Upwards of 90% of Americans couldn’t find any of these countries on a map....
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40% of Americans will root for the enemy /s


24 posted on 12/18/2021 7:02:00 AM PST by jcon40 (Machinery is only as good as its design and quality of parts. A citizen is only as good as...)
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To: tlozo

Russia is not a near peer with the United States, either militarily or economically.


25 posted on 12/18/2021 7:17:47 AM PST by Fury
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To: DIRTYSECRET

The only way to rule Iraq was a thug.

Russia is uniquely paranoid. I think it is in their DNA somehow. Mongol hordes invading and all that.

Mother Russia dies hard and Putin is the champion of that concept. Watch him lead a soccer stadium full of people in singing the national anthem. They are more patriotic now than we may have ever been. He may be a corrupt bastard but he is their corrupt bastard and they support him for that. Watch him dress down cabinet members for poor performance, a show of force and show for the people that he is their man. He is also a very smart and cagey corrupt bastard.

The Russian people? I don’t pretend to understand them. Sometimes I think they are all flower child like beatniks.


26 posted on 12/18/2021 7:23:02 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.I ha)
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To: Fury
Russia is not a near peer with the United States, either militarily or economically.

Their only strong suit appears to be their government's commitment to promoting and defending Christianity, where they beat us hands down.

(It may be all they need.)

27 posted on 12/18/2021 7:24:14 AM PST by Captain Walker ("The side that has Truth gets Humor as a bonus.")
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To: Thunder90

Yes, the rolling of Biden America begins.


28 posted on 12/18/2021 7:33:14 AM PST by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

“...that buys into Putin even though they know he’s a thug...”

Almost half of Americans buy into the stumbling, bumbling, senile, moronic, corrupt, anti-American turd Biden.


29 posted on 12/18/2021 7:42:23 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Captain Walker

The game has been too global and interconnected for over 100 years. Natural borders are no longer impenetrable. There is no choice but to fight this battle far beyond our borders if we don’t want to eventually lose.

Every country taken over provides great resources and haven for the enemy. It’s not simply a prize. It is power. This is why we used to fight against even the smallest, most insignificant country falling into their control. Until we gave up on Vietnam. Then we started trading with commies for “peace” until we lost our entire means of production. 50 years later they are still enemies, they are far more economically powerful and we are weaker in every way that matters.

For example NK has become a nuclear proxy for China. Where humans are enslaved to threaten half the planet with nuclear fire to protect communist borders. While China further expands in the Pacific. Eventually they will be able to target any US city.

South Korea exists as their counter and has greatly diminished NK’s power only because of American blood spilled many years ago to hold the communist line.

Basically, an enemy colonizing the entire planet to do their will is eventually going to be powerful enough to do the same to us...


30 posted on 12/18/2021 7:44:49 AM PST by varyouga
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To: tlozo
"In the summer of 1938 Hitler demanded the annexation of the Sudetenland into Germany. At this point Hitler was aware that the Allies were desperate to avoid war, and thought it likely that they would appease his demands. Hitler threatened war over the issue of the Sudetenland. On 29 – 30 September 1938 the British, Italian, French and German leaders met in Munich to discuss the issue. The Allies agreed to concede the Sudetenland to Germany in exchange for a pledge of peace. This agreement was known as the Munich Pact."

History repeating.

31 posted on 12/18/2021 7:46:42 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: tlozo

It’s easy to make threats when your opponents (US) are lead by spineless pansies.


32 posted on 12/18/2021 7:54:26 AM PST by Marko413
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To: varyouga
Except it's not Russia who showed up in America's part of the world; it's the United States who showed up in theirs.

Your argument for this is more easily applied to Russians concerned about Americans pushing their way into far-off corners of the globe.

33 posted on 12/18/2021 7:56:08 AM PST by Captain Walker ("The side that has Truth gets Humor as a bonus.")
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To: Leaning Right

What Putin wants is for the EU (NATO) A globalist cabal faction to stop using the Ukraine to try to seduce him into a war. Putin is not preparing to invade the Ukraine. His only goal is to maintain his military port on the Black sea. The only reason he annexed the Crimea is because the Ukrainians were threatening to not renew Russia’s lease on that port.


34 posted on 12/18/2021 8:00:26 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Salman

I’m predicting more like Yugoslavia. The cities a shite holes governed by blacks who have lost control with their idiotic policies. We already have war zones where leaders of police unions are “Don’t come here”.


35 posted on 12/18/2021 8:04:31 AM PST by DownInFlames (P)
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To: ssapro

With the Omicron virus doubling every day, my calculations show the entire country will be hosed by January 16, 2022.


36 posted on 12/18/2021 8:06:17 AM PST by DownInFlames (P)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
What Putin wants is for the EU (NATO) A globalist cabal faction to stop using the Ukraine to try to seduce him into a war. Putin is not preparing to invade the Ukraine. His only goal is to maintain his military port on the Black sea.

LOL, Putin is demanding NATO withdraw its protection/membership from all the former soviet bloc countries in eastern Europe and you're blathering on about Putin's only interested in the port of Sevastopol.

37 posted on 12/18/2021 8:14:55 AM PST by tlozo
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To: tlozo

No I’m telling you what Putin’s intent is. Get back to me when you acquire at least a 4th grade understanding of who and what the EU is and how they manipulate NATO and the Ukraine.

Here’s a clue. The EU is the New World Order. Putin and Russia are not part of the NWO. Putin is part of the Trump alliance aligned against the NWO. Russia is not our enemy. The EU is our enemy and the CCP is our enemy.


38 posted on 12/18/2021 8:27:33 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: rrrod

“Kill Russia once and for all.”

Its been tried before, but doesn’t seem to work out.

Kicking Russian ass, should be no problem.(sarcasm)


39 posted on 12/18/2021 8:31:55 AM PST by unclebankster (Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel)
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To: tlozo

Is it coincidence that those countries reject Global homo?


40 posted on 12/18/2021 8:43:09 AM PST by northislander
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