Most of the world pretty much sucks for wind.
Posted on 12/15/2021 8:21:58 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
Most of the world pretty much sucks for wind.
Electricity? Electricity in place of gas has been a nonstarter since the 70s. I don’t think anybody is stupid enough to even try building such a building.
Yeah, do it NYC. Show us all how smart you are.
“We must take steps towards climate justice — which is inextricably tied to racial justice,”
They’re hitting that line hard on NPR right now.
But if global warming happens, then nobody will need natural gas for heat
Snake Plissken memorial post
Can’t wait till the POCs in NYC are shivering in the dark.
Global warming will be the last thing they worry about.
This justice bullsh##is a scam on the American people
This from the same state that banned fracing.
‘ Wouldn’t they just have electric heat and stove? I can’t imagine that being the end of the world.”
The reason developers want to use natural gas is because it is cheaper than electric heat. If electric heat were cheaper, any rational developer would use it. So the NYC City Council is making the cost of heat, which has to be paid for by poor people, many of whom are “of color”, higher. They are intentionally making poor people even poorer. And those same people pay the salaries of the idiotic leaders who are making them poorer ON PURPOSE.
Wait till she hears back from her district about the cost of that justice.
They won’t care. They get the LIEAP subsidy. Plus they’ll think white people are getting screwed over.
NYC already has a steam heating grid that was coal fired in the past, then number two oil fired, then converted mostly to natural gas for clean Air act regs. They should contact Toshiba, or Rolls Royce both of whom make small modular nuclear reactors that can do district heating in the form of low pressure steam or hot water. You can with either pipe heat up too 150km with acceptable losses. SMR reactors that are third or 4th gen habe exclusion zones only to the plant fence the smallest only need 100 meters by 100 meters of space for 100 megawatt thermal of power. Going slight larger is an option using the BWRX that is getting NRC licensing soon. It will compete in a dollar for dollar basis with gas turbine energy plants in LCOE.
https://nuclear.gepower.com/build-a-plant/products/nuclear-power-plants-overview/bwrx-300
Rolls makes the reactors that have been used in British nuclear submarines for decades they know how to do it safely.
https://www.rolls-royce.com/innovation/small-modular-reactors.aspx#section-overview
Toshiba has walk away safe PWRs, and two SMR designed that have no need for exclusion zones they could be built under ground in the heart of a city. The 4S can be loaded for up to a 30 year life never needing to be refueled.
https://www.toshiba-energy.com/en/nuclearenergy/rd/safety-reactor.htm
Our own National labs have a 5 megawatt solid state reactor that has no moving parts and cannot melt down it just sit quietly making electricity and heat for decades. Thus tech scales up to 15mw or maybe 25. 5mw is enough a dozen large office buildings heating needs.
https://inldigitallibrary.inl.gov/sites/sti/sti/7365867.pdf
The future is nuclear humans cannot expand to a western standard of living for 8 billion let alone 11 billion without nuclear power in massive scale. There simply is not enough fossil fuels to support that level of yearly consumption let alone fertilizers which are also hydrocarbons based. You can make ammonia and urea with nuclear hydrogen or with nuclear electricity into a electrochemical cell. Potassium can be electrolysis from seawater ,phosphorus must be mined or recycled from organic wastes such as food wastes,sewage,or animal carcass. Some help species concentrate phosphorus and ultimately will be a source when the world’s phosphorus mines are played out. The only one in the USA has less than a decade of ore left.
The EPA has effectively banned the use of natural gas powered compressor pumps. The exhaust clean up technology to meet the clean Air act is so expensive nearly every operator switched to electric pumps unless there is no grid power near by then they have to use SCR catalysts with urea fluid that must be replenished in the tanks weekly by tanker trucks to meet the NOx.
The power grid failure in Texas last February was largly due to the electric pumps the EPA forced on the gas grid not being properly marked as critical need so when the local grid dropped out they stopped pumping. 40,000 megawatts of thermal capacity went off line due to lack of natural gas supply. 1350 mw of nuclear dropped off as well. Wind and solar actually produced power not a lot but ERCOT only budgeted for 8000 mw during the freeze or less. It was the lack of natural gas that dropped off 36000+ mw of thermal capacity. The well heads also were not winterized and the surface poly lines froze solid when the water that comes up with oil and gas froze solid in them. This starved the remaining gas power plants of gas which cascaded the failure chain. Texas came within five minutes of both the gas grid and the power.grid collapsing completely. If that happened a black start would have been needed. There are 17 black start capable plants in Texas 13 froze and were not useable the others were gas powered and with the gas grid down would have been useless. Texas has 4 nukes and none of them are black start or island mode capable. We had a half dozen hydropower plants that were black start capable plants but they were expensive to keep the onsite diesels to energize the synchronous coils so they were sunset for...You guessed it gas turbine energy, Texas didn’t and still doesn’t mandate those black start plants have fuel fuel turbines with fuel oil.back up tanks.
Yes as a matter of fact I am in the energy industry and deal with ERCOT unfortunately on the regular and the PUC both are corrupt and run purely for corporate profits.
Expect for that huge purple swath if hundreds of thousands of square acres of prime wind power anything above class 5 is commercially viable. There’s more than enough wind in that purple swath to power everything in America its moving it and storing it that’s always the issue the raw energy is there and then some. Same for solar there is enough solar that strikes just Arizona to power two USAs less than 5% of the Sahara could power the entire world again its how to harvest that energy and move it across continental distances and store it for night time. Again the raw energy is there more than enough.
The Left’s only way out of the corner they have painted themselves into is to go back to classifying natural gas and nuclear power as “green energy.” Their windmills and solar panels will never get the job done.
I’ve had a little bit of solar. I know what it can and can’t do.
I have 15,000 watts on dual axis trackers feeding into the grid in a separate commercial meter. I also have two power banks that I’m demoing from a second life battery cell start up. These were Nissan leaf cells now I have two 30kWh banks. During the black out I had fresh power every time the sun came up which was 3 of the 4 days the grid was down. At night we ran off the genrac as I didn’t get the banks until after the blackout. My.buddy Evan came over during the day and charged his Tesla to the top from 30% every petrol station in a 15 mile radius was not in service not a single one had back up generators large enough to run the pumps. We took his Tesla which is AWD dual motor to the area not in black out for beer/ liquor runs. I had half a dozen people staying warm and well.fed in my solar powered home. I could not have asked God himself for a better demo or sales pitch for large home solar. Every one of my neighbors bought panels for their homes and now can go off grid into island mode.
ROI?
Panels,inverters,install,grid tie and trackers paid off in just under 4 years. These panels have 25 year capacity warranties in them they will only be down 2% in that time or they replace them no cost. I sell power to ERCOT during the day not on netmetering hence the separate meter I sell directly to the ERCOT power pool we get 40 cents or more for peaker rates I have seen $2 at times per kWh. The power banks I’m not sure yet these are demos they don’t have a final retail cost yet. I’m stress testing them been doing load shifting buying power at night for in a cent then selling back at peaker rates but under my demo agreement I split 50/50 those sales with the start up since I’m burning up cycle life which is the plan so much worse to them than the average home owner would. I’m cycling them from 30% to 90% every day really giving them the work out. So far they have in 6 months lost 2% total capacity under this kind of deep.cycling no surprise.
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