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Latest VAERS estimate: 388,000 Americans killed by the COVID vaccines
https://stevekirsch.substack.com ^ | December 14, 2021 | Steve Kirsch

Posted on 12/15/2021 7:36:50 AM PST by Red Badger

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41 posted on 12/15/2021 12:47:10 PM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: qwerty1234
In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled Latest VAERS estimate: 388,000 Americans killed by the COVID vaccinesqwerty1234 wrote:

>>As of Dec 14, 2021, there are 9,136 deaths reported into VAERS

and somehow that magically turns into 380,000 deaths - yea, OK, sounds legit. </sarc>

clickbait alert.

Steve Kirsch provides his research sources and has invited NIH/CDC/Fauci et. al. to debate his team on the facts. You dismiss this as instant magic and click bait because let's face it, you have to make up stuff at this point. You have nothing of substance to say.

42 posted on 12/15/2021 12:50:09 PM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: Red Badger

Fauxi’s bioweapon is working.


43 posted on 12/15/2021 1:06:14 PM PST by upchuck (The longer I remain unjabbed with the clot-shot, the more evidence I see supporting my decision.)
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To: qwerty1234
clickbait alert.


44 posted on 12/15/2021 3:03:10 PM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: qwerty1234
Guess the bodies must be piled up and down the streets then.

Yea, they're stacked right on top of the 800,000 dead from the covids, genius.

Can't you see the buzzards?


45 posted on 12/15/2021 3:08:56 PM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: ransomnote; qwerty1234
Steve Kirsch provides his research sources and has invited NIH/CDC/Fauci et. al. to debate his team on the facts. You dismiss this as instant magic and click bait because let's face it, you have to make up stuff at this point. You have nothing of substance to say.

Have no fear. Qwerty the Dancing Vax Monkey will step up and debate the man. He's the hero Vaxhem needs right now. Right Qwerty?

I've noticed your debate style. It is superior, undefeatable, and is full of counter arguments, facts, studies, logic, and reason. How could you lose?

Haha. Just kidding. You're a moron.


46 posted on 12/15/2021 3:19:07 PM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: bagster

👍👌


47 posted on 12/15/2021 3:24:21 PM PST by nesnah (Infringe - act so as to limit or undermine [something]; encroach on)
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To: Betty Jane
My cousin is obese and has early onset Alzheimer’s diagnosed about 4 years ago. He’s 63

Gees, that's terrible.

48 posted on 12/16/2021 6:54:15 AM PST by riri (Hope is not a strategy at this point- Sam Andrews)
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To: Red Badger

I’m not sure I believe the 40x/41x factor in the under-reporting. That said, even if the factor were closer to 10x, that’s almost 100,000 people having died from vaccine-related issues. 10,000 is too many by itself. 100,000 is a disaster.


49 posted on 12/21/2021 8:54:39 AM PST by CatOwner (Don't expect anyone, even conservatives, to have your back when the SHTF in 2021 and beyond.)
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To: CatOwner

“I’m not sure I believe the 40x/41x factor in the under-reporting.”

That’s reasonable, and it’s why Steve continues to vet that number. Reading his substack, he notes a Japanese analysis that came up with the number 43, and now he’s got this latest analysis that came up with nearly 45.

Given that other sources — including the CDC — have thrown out numbers between 20 and 100, and that at least three analyses approaching the matter differently have all produced figures in the low 40’s — while it remains reasonable to continue seeking further gains in the accuracy of this figure, it’s a pretty solid bet that 41-45 is proximate to the actual figure, and good enough for a working number.


50 posted on 12/21/2021 12:02:11 PM PST by HKMk23 (The right of freedom of religion shall not be derogated even if the life of the nation is at stake.)
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To: qwerty1234

“Yea, the sore arm and sniffles type - are you really so willfully ignorant to believe that 380,000+ people have died from the vaccine and nobody bothered to report it to anyone? Yea, thats seems perfectly logical.”

Why not? You want people to believe millions have died from covid and none from the experimental gene therapy drugs. How retarded. We’re not that gullible or stupid.


51 posted on 12/21/2021 12:29:33 PM PST by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: qwerty1234

Why are you so angry and bitter that others are not as stupid as you have been and gotten the death jabs too? You should be happy and content that your jabs work and you will survive while others so stupid as to not take the jabs will soon die from covid. You’ll soon be surrounded by only smart people like yourself.


52 posted on 12/21/2021 12:34:18 PM PST by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: CodeToad

>>Why not? You want people to believe millions have died from covid and none from the experimental gene therapy drugs. How retarded. We’re not that gullible or stupid.

Guess you have reading comprehension problems, so I will type this slow, just for you - my point was that anyone that believes 380K people in the US have died from the vaccine - *and nobody bothered to report it to VAERS* is being willfully ignorant - in your case, its not so much being willfully ignorant, as just plain ignorant.

Go one believing that 380,000 people died and no one bothered to report it. Just make sure your tinfoil hat is on nice and tight.

Explain to my why nobody *bothered to report* 380,000 deaths?


53 posted on 12/21/2021 12:47:03 PM PST by qwerty1234
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“*and nobody bothered to report it to VAERS* is being willfully ignorant”

I don’t know what makes you so stupid but it really works.

Not all results are reported to VAERS since most people don’t even know it exists. Duh.

How is thinking something ‘ignorant’. You might want to look up the word ‘ignorant’ and see what it really means.

There have been tens of thousands of reports to VAERS about deaths, so it seem YOU are the IGNORANT one since you didn’t know that.


54 posted on 12/21/2021 12:54:14 PM PST by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: qwerty1234

You still haven’t tried to explain why you are so angry about no one is joining you in your delusional escapades of getting experimental gene therapy drugs shot into them.


55 posted on 12/21/2021 12:56:33 PM PST by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: qwerty1234

You mean like Covid?


56 posted on 12/22/2021 7:30:12 AM PST by Hoosier-Daddy ("Washington, DC. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious")
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To: Brian Griffin

Israeli numbers from 2021 February through 2021 May showed that adults aged 20-29 had 60% higher all cause mortality, with the percentage going up March and April, and flat in May.
After May 2021? The Israeli government stopped reporting the data. Data was reported to EU health agency, along with many other nations reporting. During that period, Israel had the highest percentage of people age 20-29 injected, and at the end of the period it was more than 93% (not counting Palestinians).
Smaller sample but more easily verifiable. FIFA Europe players (pro players) had heart attack deaths up by 386% in 2021 vs. 2020. Both years had Covid, but only 2021 had the injections. 97% of FIFA pro players were injected. Many other pro players in Europe retired, due to myocarditis and other heart and endurance issues.


57 posted on 12/22/2021 1:41:27 PM PST by bIlluminati (Demonetize the Left. Buy nothing from them. Sell nothing to them. Shun them.)
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To: CatOwner

To get to the 40x/41x factor, the researchers are counting ACTUAL deaths, not merely deaths entered into and not removed from the database.So the deaths are real, with the only pertinent question being the cause of death. On the Covid side, deaths from dementia, diabetes, morbid obesity, and heart disease are counted as “covid” deaths, including those from motor vehicle accidents, until someone points out, one at a time, an alternate cause of death, as long as there is, at some time in the past, a positive test for “covid”, whether that used 15 cycles or 45 cycles.
Most of the excess injection deaths, per the data, occur in the first 14 days after the injection, with some in days 15-35 afte3r injection. After day 35 (or 5 weeks), the injected do have fewer death, age and health stratified, until day 140 (or 20 weeks).
People under age 18 who received injections have higher deaths, from day 0 to day 126 (18 weeks) than the uninjected, with age 20-29 having 60% higher all cause mortality than the unijected. After day 126 (18 weeks), the numbers aren’t statistically significant. For those under age 18, the injected never have a statistically lower total mortality rate than the uninjected, even though high school athletes (usually very healthy) have a statistically higher rate of injection and lower obesity/morbid obesity than the uninjected.


58 posted on 12/22/2021 1:55:51 PM PST by bIlluminati (Demonetize the Left. Buy nothing from them. Sell nothing to them. Shun them.)
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To: qwerty1234

Kirsch is far from clickbait. And he’s put his money where his mouth is.

Have you?

The discussion and comments on his substack articles are significantly better than those on current FR articles. It reminds me of FR from 20+ years ago, in the heyday.

Errata bounty: $1,000 per error in Turtles and $200 in Fauci books
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/errata-bounty-1000-per-error-in-turtles


59 posted on 12/21/2022 7:10:27 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Antoninus; qwerty1234

Or both. Which seems not unlikely.


60 posted on 12/21/2022 7:12:14 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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