Posted on 12/14/2021 11:36:28 AM PST by thegagline
Ex-NFL player Phillip Adams (pictured in 2011, four years before he retired) killed six people and then himself in April this year in an as-yet unexplained rampage
Ex NFL player Phillip Adams had 'unusually severe' levels of CTE when he killed six people in April before turning the gun on himself, pathologists revealed on Tuesday as they shamed the NFL for allegedly ignoring his pleas for help.
Adams, 32, played 78 NFL games for six different teams across six seasons before retiring in 2015.
In April, he shot and killed Dr. Robert Lesslie, his wife Barbara, two of their grandchildren and two HVAC workers at the Leslie home in South Carolina.
There is no motive for the attack and the only connection between them was that they lived close to each other.
*** Doctors also revealed that Adams had amphetamines in his system that he had a prescription for on the day of the shooting, as well as Kratom, an over-the-counter drug which can have the same effects as opioids.
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(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
Plus an opioid like substance( kratom).
What could go wrong?
Man shoulda been in institution. Our policy makers are idiots.
Aaron Hernandez was a thug before being drafted by the Patriots. CTE had nothing to do with his criminal behavior.
The article said that Adams who was 32 when he died had a 20 year football career. He actually had a six year career with seven teams.
It’s very similar to Alzheimers and Mad Cow Disease. Proteins destroying the brain.
It’s a shitty world we live in.
Since CTE can’t actually be diagnosed without dissecting the brain you can’t really use it to absolve anybody or lock them up.
Tell her she reminds you of the lady in Animal House spelling PIG.
Somewhat related, didn’t the Texas Tower Sniper have a brain tumor that contributed to his murder-frenzy?
You can take the damage as a kid. That’s the really big worry.
Sadly, it appears to be progressive and eventually fatal:
I just learned something new:
“CTE was previously known as “punch drunk” syndrome and dementia pugilistica. But these terms are no longer used because it’s now known that the condition is not limited to ex-boxers.”
Link: https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/chronic-traumatic-encephalopathy/
Your statement is another excuse of the reality of ignorance into the growing incidents of CTE among professional athletes. While the NFL is under scrutiny, and rightfully so, no one is mentioning the growing incidents of CTE in ex-NHL players which the league lawyers are denying. Of course they are.....
Do yourself a favor and look up the histories of Bob Probert, Derek Boogaard, and especially Todd Ewen. And here is a video documentary of Joe Murphy, homeless on the streets in Ontario. CTE caused? You be the judge........
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaMuOmzmjGw
As long as the two sports continue to reap the financial benefits of the players participating, then it's up to the leagues to provide lifetime medical coverage for those suffering from CTE
Sounds like these guys need lobotomies.
CTE makes you kill only white people? Who knew?
But thats exactly what this kind of piece is trying to do.
Look at the context this is talked about in the article
sympathetic angry docs
blaming another party for not doing enough, not the guy eho murders six people
this is all laying the groundwork for being able to label these people as not guilty due to a medical condition
The protocols they play under now prove that the NFL has the ability to reduce the occurrence of concussions. The reason they settled was they didn’t want to risk being proven negligent by not addressing the situation sooner. I would assume they still have the same concern. I know if I sued them I’d be overjoyed with an out of court settlement.
Except you can’t diagnose it while they’re alive. But in the long run if and when we CAN as you yourself point out then we’d know they have a problem and can mitigate it, even if that means we have to commit them. And maybe the NFL could have done something. We can diagnose “CTE like symptoms” (which might or might not be caused by CTE) but the league keeps insisting on taking the approach that these are not “football related” long term injuries and hanging these guys out to dry. Joe Namath has had a bunch of surgeries on his knees all paid for by the league because they say that damage was “football related” but Adams couldn’t get so much as a shrink because the league says his problems weren’t.
well there’s an obvious correlation to knee damage and years of pro football playing
there are many many more potential reasons for a persons brain damage/mental issues
Reduce sure. Eliminate no. They settled for a lot of reasons, part of which was to avoid exactly making any culpability legally established.
Depends on what you’re looking for from the lawsuit. Are you trying to get help for you or everybody? It was a class action suit, they were trying to get help for everybody. And part of the settlement included the league setting aside funds for post concussion treatments of retired players. But the league still keeps finding a way around that. Partly because we’re still not 100% what causes CTE (yeah concussions seem to be part of it, but not everybody that gets concussions gets CTE), and of course it can’t be 100% diagnosed until the person is dead.
I think the league is being very short sited and not really working the math. It’s a 15 billion dollar a year industry. They can afford to stop chintzing on guys with psychological problems that are probably CTE and probably at least partly caused by injuries they got playing. But somewhere they decided they’d rather not admit this problem exists.
This is a hard subject. CTE is a real thing and I have seen it first hand in several vets who survived IED attacks but suffered severe concussions with long lasting effects. It is addressed in the EOD community regularly.
The incidence of drug abuse is also higher than average among this group (those who had their egg rattled) and the VA system often contributes to this by long-term prescriptions because some of them really have a lot of medical and psychological pains. They also have little patience for the bureaucracy of the VA and drop out because of frustration too.
While this man is not a military veteran we still should not dismiss the possible ramifications of having a busted egg or that such an affliction might contribute to some horror.
It can even bring down heroes who busted their egg for us.
I don’t post this as an excuse for something so evil. I was dumbstruck at how senseless this horrific act was - it defied any reasoned explanation.
However, I would not want people to dismiss the idea that CTE or TBI’s (whatever you wish to call it) can cause some horrible things to happen to those who suffer it and those who cross paths with them.
We have a lot of vets who suffered some serious trauma that is hard to see and quantify in the “IED war” and we need to do our best to identify them and give them every ounce of help we can.
I do know of one football player who suffered a similar fate although he did not kill anyone but he did go to prison for a senseless act and eventually killed himself after he was released. Same diagnosis as here and a very sad story for an otherwise polite man with no history of violence (he was pretty likeable).
This is real. We should not dismiss the concept as a contributing factor even if we could never mitigate the grievousness of such an act. It is my opinion that the NFL should be very aggressive in identifying it and dealing with this as should the NCAA. The military has gotten better at recognizing it from experience and a desire to help although it does not always work as many with combat induced TBI’s refuse help or drop out of the system. I have seen that first-hand as well. It is tragic and some of them are walking time-bombs who are high risk for violence towards others or self-harm.
This is not an easy subject and it is certainly aggravated by narcotics usage (often stop taking prescribed meds to help condition), alcohol abuse (really bad for this condition), or volatile family or personal situations.
There are some unforgivable sins in the mortal world and this was certainly one, but I don’t let the NFL or NCAA institutions off the hook completely for this stuff just as I always understood that many of the most violent kids in the inner-city were crack babies or fetal alcohol syndrome thanks to their mother.
This whole story is very sad to me.
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