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Call a child rapist a "child rapist"
TheCritic.co.uk ^ | 2021/12/3 | Julie Bindel

Posted on 12/13/2021 10:16:56 PM PST by NetAddicted

The recently released book A Long, Dark Shadow: Minor-Attracted People and Their Pursuit of Dignity, does what it says on the tin. Described as “a crucial account of the lived experiences of this hidden population”, its author Allyn Walker makes an argument for de-stigmatising adults who are sexually attracted to pre-pubescent children.

Walker gives a resounding pat on the back to those Minor-Attracted People (MAPs) who choose to not rape children. They (because Walker identifies as transgender) said in one interview that it is important to say “MAP” out of respect for the terminology that “members of that group want others to use for them. It is less stigmatising than other words like paedophile”.

Suggesting that those who wish to have sex with children should be able to use childlike sex dolls to satisfy their “urges”, Walker argues that MAPs “didn’t ask” to be sexually attracted to kids.

Foucault seems to not appreciate the vast power an adult has over a child

I agree with Walker on one thing: the word paedophile is wholly inappropriate and should not be used, although we will not agree on the reasons why. I have long advocated for the abolition of the word, preferring instead “child rapist” or “child abuser”. The literal meaning of “paedophile” is “lover of children”. It is classed as a medical condition, which it is not. A person is not pre-programmed to “desire” sex with children. Look at Jimmy Savile: he abused adult women and men, children and corpses.

The view that sexual attraction to pre-pubescent children is a sexual identity and somehow hardwired, as opposed to chosen or socially constructed, has been around since the 1960s, and promoted by the likes of French philosopher Michel Foucault.

Foucault, famous for his theories on power and sexuality, seems to not appreciate the vast amount of power an adult has over a child. Whilst in Tunisia in the late 1960s, he allegedly sexually abused Tunisian prepubescent children. According to French essayist Guy Sorman, “They were eight, nine, ten years old, he was throwing money at them and would say ‘let’s meet at 10pm at the usual place’.” This, it turned out, was the local cemetery: “He would make love there on the gravestones with young boys. The question of consent wasn’t even raised.”

But according to the Queer identified writer Laurie Penny, who posted an essay on Substack entitled, “What Foucault Got Right: On violence, libel and Queer Theory”: “Michel Foucault has been demonised for decades, presumably on the basis that it’s fine to libel the dead and fun to libel the French.” So, Foucault’s critics don’t like him because he was a Frog?

Not surprisingly there were some sharp criticisms of Penny’s take on Twitter, to which she responded, “Well, if you’d read the piece, you’d see that what I’m doing is more complex.”

Penny concludes that the revelations about Foucault are probably libellous rumours, and that, based on her expert assessment (she has read his books in recent weeks) “…it seems unlikely that Foucault actually assaulted children”.

I have also read Foucault, but perhaps with different eyes.

In his book History of Sexuality there is a disturbing scene where a little girl gets dragged into a ditch and sexually assaulted, which he describes as a “timeless bucolic pleasure”. Foucault is also on the record saying that sexuality should never be criminalised, because criminalising rape is sexually repressive. He has argued that as a crime, being raped is no different from being punched in the face.

Then there is the infamous letter of 1977 that Foucault signed, in which it was argued that statutory rape should not be a criminal offence (thereby obliterating the legal concept of an age of consent). The letter was part of a broader defence of two adult men who had raped (or, as Penny puts it, “had sex with”) pre-pubescent girls.

“[Foucault] and other degenerate eggheads argued against the concept of a legal age of consent. That bit definitely happened. And it was definitely a bit fucked up,” writes Penny.

Men who abuse children need to be stopped, punished and deterred

Child abuse apologism is rife amongst a number of male sexual libertarians. Some years ago, gay rights campaigner Peter Tatchell saw fit to praise a book whose introduction contained the line: “Adults who love children and express it sexually are replacing gays and blacks as society’s newest scapegoats”. The book decried “hysteria” and “witch-hunts” against child abusers, and condemned child protection as an oppressive force of control over the young. Foucault and Tatchell have both argued that punishing sex between “consenting” children and adults curtails the sexual development and potential pleasure for children.

Most sexual abuse of children takes place in the home, perpetrated by men known to the victims. These men are not usually labelled “paedophiles”: this word is reserved for Colin Pitchfork and his ilk — evil-looking men who prey on children previously unknown to them.

Labelling child rapists as “paedophiles” gives the impression that they are suffering from a condition, and that there is some kind of gene that predisposes them to be sexually attracted to children when there is no scientific or other credible evidence to prove this. Men who abuse children need to be stopped, punished and deterred, not treated for the “illness” known as paedophilia.

Some experts who try to unravel the phenomenon of paedophilia give the impression that being “attracted” to children is a sexual orientation rather than a choice to harm them; that these people are part of a weird sub-group and different from “ordinary” members of society; that there is a medical explanation, rather than a social one, for their behaviour; and that they are different from the fathers and other male relatives who abuse children in the home.

The first time I heard the term “Minor-Attracted People/Person” was in an interview with Tom O’Carroll, a key member of the Paedophile Information Exchange who is sexually aroused by pre-pubescent children. O’Carroll told me he thought the German term “kinder” should replace “paedophile” because it “sounds like a kindly Uncle”. The feminist fix for the sanitisation of child sexual abuse is to get rid of all the euphemisms and medicalised terms and to call these individuals child rapists and child abuse apologists.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: allynwalker; bidenvoters; childsexabuse; csa; homosexualagenda; newspeak; pedophiles
Good answer to people who want to Newspeak the word pedophile.
1 posted on 12/13/2021 10:16:56 PM PST by NetAddicted
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To: NetAddicted

“Death row inmate” would be better.


2 posted on 12/13/2021 10:22:27 PM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: NetAddicted
O’Carroll told me he thought the German term “kinder” should replace “paedophile” because it “sounds like a kindly Uncle”.

As a fluent speaker of German, am totally baffled by this sentence!

The Plural Noun "Kinder" (Singular: "das Kind") means simply "children."

How could any sane person suggest replacing the word "paedophile" with the word for "children?!" That makes no sense!

Regards,

3 posted on 12/13/2021 10:42:09 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: NetAddicted

In this bull Shiite world of liberalism, isn’t calling a child rapist, a child rapist, a bit on the politically incorrect side. 😀😄😂


4 posted on 12/13/2021 10:48:29 PM PST by Mark17 (USAF ATCer, Retired. Father of USAF pilot. ATCers & pilots, the quintessential elements of aviation)
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To: chajin

Rape is the same as getting punched in the face?

Although I am a woman, I had my fair share of schoolyard fist-fights back in the day. Getting punched in the face was no picnic when you sported a full set of braces.

I put up a good fight, enough to hurt and to stop the bully, but that was nothing compared to the blows I threw when some creep came at me. I was fighting as if my life depended on it.

No, dipsh*t, it is not the same. Not even close.

(Not directed at you, chajin).


5 posted on 12/14/2021 1:17:08 AM PST by TheWriterTX (Trust not in earthly princes....)
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To: NetAddicted

“Walker argues that MAPs “didn’t ask” to be sexually attracted to kids.”

So what? Jeffrey Dahmer didn’t ask to be a homicidal and cannibalistic faggot but he was still guilty. Pedophiles are no different but actually worse because they prey upon children.


6 posted on 12/14/2021 1:17:59 AM PST by Qui is (Biden spews https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4020201/postsHarris swallows. )
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To: alexander_busek

O’Carroll is a flaming idiot. His suggestion is an insult to Germans everywhere.

Er ist bose.


7 posted on 12/14/2021 1:21:48 AM PST by TheWriterTX (Trust not in earthly princes....)
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To: Qui is

I admit I read to a certain point and stopped,

I could care less if so called “MAP’s” didnt ask to be attracted to kids, they are still damned predators and need to be seen and called as such, this is a bunch of BS.


8 posted on 12/14/2021 1:25:21 AM PST by the_individual2014
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To: NetAddicted

Instead of MAP, they should be called ECR (eventual child rapist).


9 posted on 12/14/2021 3:17:55 AM PST by ScottinVA (Enough. Cage the libs.. now. )
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To: NetAddicted; chajin; alexander_busek; Mark17; TheWriterTX; Qui is ; the_individual2014; ...

As many people know, there have been various attempts since the 1960s to legitimize pedophilia, and it has found something of a refuge in the darkest corners of the “LGBT” and the “sex positive” worlds.

Some of those attempts, such as the American Psychological Association’s publication of a severely flaw study (Rind) which supported the notion that what it called “adult-child” sex wasn’t so bad, were recounted in the well-known series of essays years ago by Mary Eberstadt on what she termed “Pedophilia Chic” (It included numerous examples of how highbrow leftist society has wanted to provide pedophilia some acceptance, which is considers a more “enlightened” response, a la the Europeans, who generally have a pretty low ages of consent).

Many of those same rationalizations of pedophilia are in this article above.

But that all said, I must also say that, as a Christian, I believe that there is still always a difference between a temptation that’s resisted and one that’s accepted and rationalized, with acting on it being the worst. The standard that Jesus said was that people will be judged according to how they judge others. No one would like to be judged guilty for having a temptation which they resist as evil and reject.

About 15 years ago, I participated a bit on a very small Christian discussion site. It had various forums on various sins, including homosexuality, abortion, and pedophilia. It didn’t have a lot of traffic, so often the most recent visible posts were from months or years ago.

One day I started reading some of the old posts on pedophilia, and noticed one from two or three years before.

The person who created the opening post identified himself as boy of about 13 or 14. I think he identified as Christian, but the point of his post was that he said he’d started noticing that he was sometimes having sexual thoughts about children and that it troubled him greatly. He also said he didn’t want to be a pedophile or to hurt children, and that he had never done anything to children.

While it’s impossible to know if he was who he said he was, it’s still usually important on the internet to at least somewhat take a person at their word. I remember on Yahoo Answers (now defunct) there would be a lot of general spoofing going on (people obviously making up stories) at the same time that there were frequently posts where people would say they were suicidal. There was no way to say any of those people were trying to get a rise out of others, yet many posters would enthusiastically encourage those people to kill themselves.

So with this apparent teenage boy, the other posters should have taken him to be such. Yet it was troubling to see that of the five or six responses to him, they all exploded at him, calling him things like pervert, damned, and a wicked monster. Yet I could not detect any hint whatsoever in what he wrote that he was trying to justify even his thoughts of pedophilia, or that he was anything but deeply troubled and anxious about what he was experiencing. I didn’t write a reply to him myself since it had been so long, but I hope he did not go on to become a child abuser himself. I have to believe that there are godly ways to help people, particularly young people possibly twisted by being abused themselves, who are tempted in that way, yet truly see it as evil, or can be reformed to see it as such. There has to be godly ways to do so without in any way approving even just the acceptance of the thoughts, much less abuse itself. To help people avoid sinning when it can be done is to destroy some of the devil’s work (1 John 3:8).

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/weekly-standard/pedophilia-chic-2623

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/weekly-standard/pedophilia-chic-reconsidered


10 posted on 12/14/2021 5:10:43 AM PST by Faith Presses On (Willing to die for Christ, if it's His will--politics should prepare people for the Gospel)
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To: NetAddicted

“Pedophile” is a Newspeak word itself, though, since it is most certainly not love.


11 posted on 12/14/2021 5:12:45 AM PST by Faith Presses On (Willing to die for Christ, if it's His will--politics should prepare people for the Gospel)
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To: NetAddicted

My wife and I watch Jeopardy! every day, and the “Beat Generation” will sometimes be in the categories. The answers are usually “Jack Kerouac”, “Ken Kesey”, “William S Burroughs”, “Alan Ginsburg”, “On the Road”, “Naked Lunch” and “Howl”. My wife never remembers these. Every time one of the questions is Alan Ginsburg or “Howl”, I always add “famous pedophile and NAMBLA member!”. The Jeopardy! host never mentions that.


12 posted on 12/14/2021 5:54:59 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (11/3-11/4/2020 - The USA became a banana republic.)
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To: Sans-Culotte

Being a nambla member made him a pederast.


13 posted on 12/14/2021 10:45:18 AM PST by spankalib
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