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To: Freedom56v2

The right to try act is not the right to receive act. If a physician licensed in a state believes something to be helpful they can prescribe it without fear of prosecution under civil law.

It does not mean a patient can demand a treatment and be guaranteed to receive it. Physicians are licensees of the state (although with Covid there are some compact states now). There are some physicians willing to prescribe it in various states that means get the physician to prescribe it but it does but mean that all states must not should be bound by the decision of one physician in one state

Some appear to think that right try means the unilateral ability to demand something when they apparently graduated from the google school of medicine.


45 posted on 12/11/2021 12:46:14 PM PST by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: gas_dr

Some appear to think that right try means the unilateral ability to demand something when they apparently graduated from the google school of medicine.
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Well OK...You are looking at this from the doctor/hospital view.

How about you consider the patient/patient family view? I ask because probably the saddest, most difficult day of my life was spending hours in the hospital waiting and watching my father die...I would have done ANYTHING—ANYTHING to help him.

If he had COVID I would have snuck Ivermectin to him if the hospital had not allowed it. When someone is dying why not allow out-of-box thinking. Why are these hospitals denying patients from a treatment that some say definitely works—others say probably works? We are talking about family, people—not statistics!

To the hospital, the person in room ABC is patient XXX, to the family there is a husband, wife, mother or father. THINK!

Ok moving on...thank you for the clarification...trying vs. receiving.

It is a very sad distinction IMHO... Why should a patient not be able to receive? Especially since the cases I am familiar with here in the publicized cases in IL all had family members who indemnified the hospitals from liability?!

I am not a grad of “google school of medicine” — thanks for the snark—tho based on our previous conversations, I expected better from you. Actually my comment regarding Right to Try Act came from a family member with medical career...Again we live in Illinois, and I don’t understand why the h*ll the hospitals are fighting tooth and nail to prevent near death patients from getting something that might change their outcome? And actually has changed the outcome of some. Again, the hospitals are indemnified.

I have never claimed expertise in data analysis, virology, infection control, etc. Tho you are a doctor, I am not sure if you have the expertise in these particular areas either...

As I have stated to you privately, I do have family members who have far more medical expertise than me—and perhaps you. However, I choose to look at the expertise of people outside of my family who have a lot of expertise and a lot to lose and have put their careers on the line—like Drs. McCullough, Malone, Martin, Kory.

As stated, I live in Soviet Republic of Illinois...(working on changing that). There are 3 hospitals that have fought furiously to prevent Ivermectin being administered on patients in ICU or vented. WHY???? The 2 patients in ICU/on vent who were successful in receiving Ivermectin survived, were discharged, and are working on getting their health back to where they were before admission. One patient who was denied Ivermectin died. what a shame...Why the h*ll didn’t that hospital just allow the patient to get the treatment they requested? Sadly, the next paragraph may provide insight...

From what I have read, our government has incentivized hospitals treating COVID in ICU...The hospitals have an incentive to diagnose patients with covid, prescribe the “approved” protocols such as Remdesivir and venting...It is sad. IMHO It is a travesty. Please dispute this.

I live 5 minutes from one of the hospitals in IL that has been in the news regarding lawsuits flying regarding Ivermectin. They have had a decent track record/rating/reputation. I have been at that facility as have my family members. But at this point, I don’t believe they have my best interest or my back...I am updating my paperwork regarding medical choice.

Sadly your comments don’t instill any confidence going forward.


87 posted on 12/11/2021 2:38:28 PM PST by Freedom56v2 (It's not the job of the unvaxxed to protect the vaxxed. That's the job of the "vaccine.")
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