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https://www.mlive.com/news/2021/12/parents-charged-in-oxford-high-school-shooting-are-returning-to-face-charges-attorney-says.html
Mlive ^ | 12/3/2021 | John Tunison

Posted on 12/03/2021 5:07:37 PM PST by madison10

The attorney for James and Jennnifer Crumbley, the parents of the accused Oxford High School shooting suspect, says they are turning themselves in to face involuntary manslaughter charges.

Attorney Shannon Smith late Friday afternoon indicated the Crumbleys were returning to face charges, according to the Detroit News.

The Oakland County Sheriff’s Department earlier Friday issued an advisory for people to be-on-the-lookout for the Crumbleys because they had not turned themselves into police as their attorney supposedly had promised.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: banglist; charges; concerntrollisnuts; crumbley; ethancrumbley; jamescrumbley; jennnifercrumbley; johntunison; learnhowtopost; lookwhohatescopes; michigan; oaklandcounty; oxford; oxfordhigh; parents; shannonsmith; shooting
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1 posted on 12/03/2021 5:07:37 PM PST by madison10
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To: madison10

APB for those two nut jobs 🤪


2 posted on 12/03/2021 5:09:47 PM PST by NWFree (Somebody has to say it)
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To: madison10

Title should be: Parents charged in Oxford High School shooting are returning to face charges, attorney says


3 posted on 12/03/2021 5:11:00 PM PST by madison10
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To: madison10

Getting assets hidden for what they know will be huge civil suits.


4 posted on 12/03/2021 5:18:40 PM PST by 100%FEDUP (I'm seeing RED!)
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To: madison10

Never, I repeat, never talk to authorities without legal representation


5 posted on 12/03/2021 5:21:02 PM PST by griswold3 (When chaos serves the State, the State will encourage chaos)
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To: NWFree

Why do you call them “nut jobs”? Nothing has been proven in a court, so allegations and assertions are for public consumption. It serves to tilt the scales of Justice past the “equal” that is promised.


6 posted on 12/03/2021 5:31:20 PM PST by Glad2bnuts ((“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer,)
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To: griswold3

Never, I repeat, never talk to authorities without legal representation

Damn skippy.


7 posted on 12/03/2021 5:44:05 PM PST by centermass_socrates (Taking the long way around sometimes is sound militarily. Not advised in Bastogne.)
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To: madison10

Meanwhile, according to the DM:


Their attorney insists they are not on the run and plan to return to the area to face charges

But police have issued a BOLO alert and say that no voluntary surrender has been arranged

Law enforcement sources say that the couple withdrew $4,000 from an ATM and have not been seen since Thursday night, when they were under surveillance at a motel where they had been staying since the shooting.

Due to a communication breakdown between agencies, the surveillance was suspended by Friday morning and the parents left the motel unobserved before the charges were announced by prosecutors, according to WDIV-TV.
Link: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10271865/Charging-decision-parents-Oxford-High-shooting.html


It’s the DM, so ... Who knows how reliable? Sounds like the cops are not happy with the prosecutor, anyway.


8 posted on 12/03/2021 5:52:20 PM PST by CatHerd (Whoever said "all's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: centermass_socrates

Too many say that getting representation means you’re guilty. It means you have something to hide.
That needs to change.
It should be SOP.
Full disclosure: I have never had a run in with authorities. But acquaintances would have saved much aggravation by letting someone else do their talking. Lesson learned.


9 posted on 12/03/2021 5:52:51 PM PST by griswold3 (When chaos serves the State, the State will encourage chaos)
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To: Glad2bnuts

“Nothing has been proven in a court, so allegations and assertions are for public consumption.”

All true but as with Rittenhouse, Darrell Brooks etc. one can get a pretty clear picture of the situation with a bit of due diligence in their research.

We can for sure ascertain from known documented facts that the parents were negligent, perhaps grossly so concerning their son prior to the school shooting. Whether criminally so we’ll leave to the courts.


10 posted on 12/03/2021 6:03:08 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: Glad2bnuts
Well they've left a trail that certainly shows they've been resistant to any authorities, including the schools. As well as written example of the step-mothers disjointed and also negligent thinking. At issue will be how the prosecutor functions in court and McDonald has a strong background in domestic disputes, child welfare and awards for her work. So they better have a top notch attorney....
11 posted on 12/03/2021 6:23:32 PM PST by caww ( )
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To: madison10

Perhaps they feel like they’re being demonized.
/s


12 posted on 12/03/2021 6:57:06 PM PST by Izzatso
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To: Glad2bnuts

The case against the parents is shaping up to be another Kyle Rittenhouse moment. While I have no real sympathy for their son, the question is what responsibility do parents have for the actions of their children? What are the parents obligations? Are parents required to monitor their children’s social media posting? Assuming there is no law prohibiting it, does purchasing a weapon and giving it to their 15 year old son rise to the level of gross negligence required to prove involuntary manslaughter? Should the parents have had reason to know or did they refuse to see that their son would use the weapon to kill and injure his classmates? If we go down that rabbit hole, do we also hold the school responsible for missing the same signs that the parents should have seen? Was this boy bullied, and did the teachers or the administration have reason to know? I don’t know the answers to these questions, but I believe the criminal prosecution of the parents is intended as an attack on the Second Amendment.


13 posted on 12/03/2021 6:58:51 PM PST by JGPhila
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To: JGPhila

This has been discussed at length on other FR threads.

The father bought the handgun on Black Friday with son present. On Saturday the mother posted a picture of the gun on social media captioned “Mom & son day testing out his new Xmas present”.

A few hours before the shooting, the parents were called to the school after


“a teacher discovered a note with drawings and messages on Ethan Crumbley’s desk. She took a picture on her cellphone. Prosecutors said the note included the following:

A drawing of a semi-automatic handgun pointing at the words, “The thoughts won’t stop. Help me.”

A drawing of a bullet with “blood everywhere” written above the bullet.

A drawing of a person who appeared to have been shot twice and bleeding.

A drawing of a laughing emoji.

Writing that said, “My life is useless.”

Writing that said, “The world is dead.”

Link: https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2021/12/04/where-are-ethan-crumbleys-parents-were-red-flags-ignored-before-oxford-high-school-shooting/


At the meeting, the parents were asked to take the boy home and were given 48 hours to get him into counseling. The parents declined to take him home and left him at the school. During the meeting, the gun and ammo and notebook with his plans to shoot other students were right there in his backpack.

When the father heard about the shooting, suspecting it was his son, he rushed home to check on the gun and found it missing.

There’s more, but you can look it up for yourself. It sounds to me, based on reports, like the parents were um, not thinking straight (to put it mildly). Knowing he had access to a new handgun he considered his own, then seeing his disturbing drawing and words and cry for help at the school meeting, they really should have taken him home and confiscated the backpack.


14 posted on 12/03/2021 7:39:53 PM PST by CatHerd (Whoever said "all's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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that the couple withdrew $4,000 from an ATM

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My Credit Union has a limit at their ATMs of $1,000 per 24 hr.
period. If you want more cash than that, you have to go to one of their branch offices.


15 posted on 12/03/2021 9:27:01 PM PST by Graybeard58 (The China virus doesn't scare me, Venezuelaism does.)
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To: traderrob6

“We can for sure ascertain from known documented facts that the parents were negligent”

I just listened to the prosecutor. She stated nothing that points to negligence on the parents part. If anything, it sounded like the school was negligent for allowing the kid to be put back into school.

What did you hear that shows evidence that they are negligent?


16 posted on 12/03/2021 9:41:39 PM PST by rbmillerjr
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To: rbmillerjr

Buying the kid a handgun for starters. It does not have to be written out word for word


17 posted on 12/03/2021 9:59:25 PM PST by madison10
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To: Graybeard58

Our financial institutions go nowhere near that high. They must have started withdrawals on Tuesday.


18 posted on 12/03/2021 10:04:05 PM PST by madison10
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To: madison10

That is not an illegal action. This Prosecutor has political ambitions and this action is part of attacking 2nd Amendment Rights.


19 posted on 12/03/2021 10:39:00 PM PST by rbmillerjr
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To: CatHerd
Knowing he had access to a new handgun he considered his own, then seeing his disturbing drawing and words and cry for help at the school meeting, they really should have taken him home and confiscated the backpack.

I have not seen evidence they saw the drawing. At least one report said that by the time they saw the drawing, all the disturbing stuff had been drawn over to make it illegible.

20 posted on 12/04/2021 4:00:27 AM PST by marktwain (Leftists want to destroy the USA. Both Globalists and China want this. Islam wants it.)
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