Posted on 12/02/2021 9:46:36 AM PST by SeekAndFind
However, those precedents do not justify what the federal government is trying to do the Medicare and medicaid. Therefore, the judge right we struck it down.
The good judge left out something, like, “These shots are not vaccines. They are sort of the opposite of a vaccine.”
I don’t see “only if they are effective” in the constitution. do you?
They can’t be mandated by the fedgov
EFFECTIVE at what???
In Canada, a town has usually had 5-6 stillbirths annually.
In 6 months, they have recorded 86....13 in a 24 hour period.
All the mothers were vaxxed.
That is a 29 TIMES rate of deaths.......
“I smell a rat.”
Indeed, you do.
197 U.S. 11, 25 S.Ct. 358, 49 L.Ed. 643
HENNING JACOBSON v. COMMONWEALTH OF MASSACHUSETTS.
The case was a Due Process case.
The Court needlessly expanded the scope by its ruling.
BOOM.
Government can mandate vaccinations, and they DON’T have to offer exemptions if they don’t feel like it.
Read ‘em and weep.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/197/11
” You can’t require a person to chop off their own hand or blind an eye or commit suicide.”
I will question one of those requirements. They jolly well can require/force you to commit suicide. If they try to vaccinate me, no thanks. I will take my own life. I’m old and I have lots of left over pills of various kinds. I will be 88 tomorrow. I’ve had a long and happy life. Lately it’s not so great.
Reads to me like Deep State is about to allow the courts to get it out of the vaxx mandate.
Deep State’s going cut bait.
Can’t wait to see what the cabal tries next.
The so-called vaccines, which prominent MDs are starting to refer to as Serums because they are not true vaccines, these Serums are NOT proven effective so the federal government has no business mandating them any more than mandating baloney sandwiches to cure cancer.
The federal government has a role in promoting the public health but they don’t have carte-blanche to do whatever they want without thorough examination which would be confirmed via FDA authorization which hasn’t happened for the Serums they are mandating.
“This decision fits the textbook definition of diplomacy”
Judges are not appointed to engage in political diplomacy.
Well, it sounds to me that he is thinking of state governments, or the legislative branch, not the federal executive branch.
Congress would pass it in a second, like the vax database passed yesterday.
State Legislative action is specifically sited. So neither the Federal Legilsature, or the Federal Executive can use this judgement as justification for a Federal action
Sans-Culotte wrote: “Sounds like the judge is saying the government can compel people to get the vaxx, but that the method they chose was incorrect?”
It is settled law that states have police powers forbidden to the federal government. Those police powers include the power to compel vaccinations. IOW, your state could compel you to get vaccinate but the federal government cannot. That is why Biden’s Mandate is an end run around the Constitution and should be blocked.
Jacobson v. Massachusetts, 197 U.S. 11 (1905)
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/197/11/
It could come out that way, but I don’t think Roberts opinion was necessary. Just an understanding of the separation of powers...
Ancesthntr wrote:
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“2) Experimental (i.e EUA) drugs / vaccines, by LAW, can not be mandated”
That part is the key to this entire thing...and I have seen barely any mention whatsoever of this fact. This is not merely codified into law, it is a part of the very legislation which enabled the FDA to issue the EUAs in the first place.
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And then the question is why hasn’t that point been made in a lawsuit, that anything under an EUA cannot be mandated?
He was a W appointee, so gutless is a given.
I distinctly recall W promising original intent judges. Either he lied, or he’s stupid, or a combination. What else should we expect from a Lyndon Johnson Democrat pretending to be a pro-life conservative?
Jacobson did not compel vaccination. It simply allowed the imposition of a small fine for refusal to take the vaccine.
Put your big boy pants on and come try force a needle into my arm or anyone in my family. You’ll leave in a pine box.
I’m 71. It’s always great. Keep faith.
SecAmndmt wrote: “Jacobson did not compel vaccination. It simply allowed the imposition of a small fine for refusal to take the vaccine.”
Considering the time, it wasn’t a small fine. Neither did the court put a limit on the fine and they did not limit the methods to just a small fine.
SecAmndmt wrote: “Jacobson did not compel vaccination. It simply allowed the imposition of a small fine for refusal to take the vaccine.”
Considering the time, it wasn’t a small fine. Neither did the court put a limit on the fine and they did not limit the methods to just a small fine.
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