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Maxwell accuser says she was introduced to Trump at Mar-a-Lago at age 14
NY Post ^ | 12/01/2021 | Ben Feuerherd and Tamar Lapin

Posted on 12/01/2021 2:41:40 PM PST by ChicagoConservative27

The first alleged victim to testify against Ghislaine Maxwell at her sex-trafficking trial said Wednesday that she was introduced to former president Donald Trump by Jeffrey Epstein and once flew with Prince Andrew on one of the financier’s private planes.

The accuser, who testified under the pseudonym “Jane,” recalled the two encounters while being quizzed by Maxwell’s defense attorney, Laura Menninger.

Jane responded affirmatively when asked if Epstein drove her to Mar-a-Lago in a “dark green car” when she was 14 years old in the 1990s.

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To: sit-rep

The teen girls whose parents were either nonexistent or negligent or actively pimping them to Epstein are victims of sexual abuse.

A teen girl who marries a man in a real marriage with the permission of parents who have reason to believe it is a true marriage and not a prostitution setup are not victims.

There are differences between teen rape victims and teen wives. There is a world of difference between prostitution, rape, and marriage. It used to be these things were acknowledged.


121 posted on 12/02/2021 7:23:19 PM PST by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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To: Persevero

you are correct... now, lets talk about this particular 14 year old...

Was she Raped?... no!

Was she married?... no!

Was she a prostitute?... Yes!

She was there voluntarily!! She was not raped! Which was my original point the you 2 clowns decided jump on.

Christ next youre gonna try telling me its not Crumbley’s fault he shot up Oxford High School!!


122 posted on 12/02/2021 7:30:04 PM PST by sit-rep ( )
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To: Persevero

and i didnt think I had to explain it, but the only reason I brought up marriage at young ages was to kind of relay that children that young are fully capable of having sex...


123 posted on 12/02/2021 7:46:10 PM PST by sit-rep ( )
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To: sit-rep
Listen, pervo. You are trying to justify child sex trafficking with forcible rape. I think you're the idiot, and cause you're trying so hard, a perv and enabler.

It doesn't matter if the girls appeared to be participating 'willingly' because according to the law and all things morale, children do not have the legal ability to form a rational decision. This is the law.

They call it 'statutory RAPE' for a reason. 'Rape by law', in other words. Seeming consent or full consent is not a factor. The capacity FOR consent is.

It doesn't matter how many perverts like you crawl out of the sewer to blame the victim. You pervs are defending your own sick yearnings or actions.

And please address the elephant in the room during your diversion campaign. What about the supposed 'whores', as you call them, being pimped out to other 'elites' as 'honey pots' and a means to ensnare them into the web of derpishness so as to take control of them?

That's what this is really all about, pervo. Not your childish, sick, and simplistic 'she's a whore' defense of it.

Yea, but I'm an idiot.


124 posted on 12/02/2021 10:49:28 PM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: sit-rep
and i didnt think I had to explain it, but the only reason I brought up marriage at young ages was to kind of relay that children that young are fully capable of having sex...

By that logic, a 1 year old is 'capable of having sex'.

You passed creepy long ago, and are headed for full-fledged Chester.

#StayAwayFromChildren


125 posted on 12/02/2021 10:54:15 PM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: bagster
"because according to the law and all things morale, children do not have the legal ability to form a rational decision

And there you have it ladies and gentleman...Crumbley is not responsible for the recent high school shooting... its someone elses fault.

a 1 year old?? and you call me a sick bastard...smmfh...

126 posted on 12/03/2021 3:52:57 AM PST by sit-rep ( )
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To: sit-rep
And there you have it ladies and gentleman...Crumbley is not responsible for the recent high school shooting... its someone elses fault.

WTF are you even talking about, short eyes? What's that got to do with statutory rape? You pervs' mind's work in mysterious ways.

a 1 year old?? and you call me a sick bastard...smmfh...

Well, you did say this, Chester....

and i didnt think I had to explain it, but the only reason I brought up marriage at young ages was to kind of relay that children that young are fully capable of having sex...

According to your perverted mind, a pile of rocks that has a snake in it is 'fully capable of having sex' if somebody takes the time to have sex with it. Its how you people justify your sickness.

You have a disease.


127 posted on 12/03/2021 6:52:32 AM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: bagster

Hey stupid.. there is a significant difference between rape and statutory rape. If persovo said statutory rape back at the start of this you clowns would have never heard from me.

Kids are engaging in sex at young ages and have been for ages. If crombley is expected to know right from wrong at 15 being a male, then a female at 14 should know right from wrong as well. I NEVER INSINUATED DEFENDING PEDOFILES!! You did!!

And no you sick bastard... 1 year olds are NOT CAPABLE of having sex.


128 posted on 12/03/2021 7:48:58 AM PST by sit-rep ( )
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To: sit-rep

Well now you blaspheme.

Minors can’t be prostitutes. They can be prostituted however.

If they have the capacity and maturity and critical thinking skills to prostitute THEMSELVES, then I must assume you believe they can enter contracts, drive heavy machinery, reject compulsory education, sue and be sued as individuals, be in adult prisons, and be subject to adult laws and punishments. Etc.

I doubt that though. I doubt you’d hire one to drive your gasoline delivery, rent an apartment to one, issue one a credit card…you’d just like to “hire” one because they are suddenly adult in that case. Or blame them when another man “hires” them. Nothing to see here. Their fault. Move along.

Leaving the sexual exploitation of minors so open and free there would be basically no law protecting them from sexual abuse at all.


129 posted on 12/03/2021 8:11:19 AM PST by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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To: bagster

Holy cow - there really are people on FR blaming the victims of child molestation.

I would have that that if they were here, they would hide. Boy, was I wrong!


130 posted on 12/03/2021 8:18:21 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: sit-rep

Once upon a time there was a child molestation apologist on FR.

That time is now, and the poster defending child molestation, sit-rep.

Sick!


131 posted on 12/03/2021 8:21:40 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Triple; Jim Robinson

I never defended child molestation. But these Children ARE NOT free of wrong doing.

YOU PEOPLE are now saying child crimes are not their fault. explain Oxford High school and all the rest!! So why is crumbley being tried as an adult!

You and all the others accusing me a being a child molester apologist can kiss my ass. I never once defended the animals. You accuse me of doing so! You are out of line. You and the others have twisted my words.

Half these idiot kids need to be punished for their actions. This is precisely why we are dealing with this bullshit because of adults like you immediately blaming someone else for the problems

Ban me or grow the hell up!


132 posted on 12/03/2021 9:17:51 AM PST by sit-rep ( )
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To: sit-rep; Jim Robinson

“ If a 14 year old was in an environment like that, and didnt jump up on a table and scream she’s being trafficed please help me, she’s a whore...” sit-rep

This is but one example of you blaming the victim of child sex trafficking.


133 posted on 12/03/2021 10:06:50 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Triple
Holy cow - there really are people on FR blaming the victims of child molestation.

Right? I had to take a shower just from talking to him.


134 posted on 12/03/2021 10:24:32 AM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: sit-rep
You and all the others accusing me a being a child molester apologist can kiss my ass.

I won't be doing that.


135 posted on 12/03/2021 10:26:55 AM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: Triple
Once upon a time there was a child molestation apologist on FR.

and here we have another one who changes their words... and you people sit in judgment of me?? My words have been the same throughout. if a 14 year old didnt scream out when she had the chance, she is AS GUILTY as the "Trafficers". No where did I excuse the trafficers. Grow up!!

136 posted on 12/03/2021 10:26:57 AM PST by sit-rep ( )
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To: sit-rep
if a 14 year old didnt scream out when she had the chance, she is AS GUILTY

Go ahead, say it. You know you want to. She's a WHORE. Are the little boys 'whores' too?

Shameful


137 posted on 12/03/2021 10:28:54 AM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: bagster

man go sit down... you lost credibility when you changed your words half way thru. now you just look like someone whos desperate...


138 posted on 12/03/2021 10:30:55 AM PST by sit-rep ( )
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To: sit-rep
man go sit down... you lost credibility when you changed your words half way thru. now you just look like someone whos desperate...


139 posted on 12/03/2021 10:35:18 AM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: bagster

I already said it moron!! 5 times now!! 14 15 16... If theyre in a situation like that, and they are flitting around batting their eye lashes and not asking anyone for help, THEY ARE GUILTY AS THE PEOPLE WHO BROUGHT THEM THERE!!

I’ll be damned if I’m gonna stifle my beliefs just because a few of you clowns want to distort my message and or blame someone else for childhood crimes. YES child trafficers are the worst in society!!! Yes, Pedophilia is THE WORST in society!!! But half of it wouldnt even exist if there were not WILLING kids flaunting themselves. and its fkng glamourized on sites like omegle and Tik Tok.

lol... fkn guy is gonna quote me but leave out half the sentence.... im done with ya. youre a joke...


140 posted on 12/03/2021 10:53:17 AM PST by sit-rep ( )
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