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Live Oral Argument - Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization [Abortion]
Supreme Court of the US ^ | December 1, 2021 | Supreme Court of the US

Posted on 12/01/2021 7:04:04 AM PST by Cboldt

https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/live.aspx

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: abortion; livethread; scotus
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To: Ronaldus Magnus

Gorsuch is making a very good point about the undue burden standard being difficult to apply and how it fits within Stare Decisis. He might have just trapped her in opposing the undue burden standard. Unfortunately he seems very deferential to her answer.


61 posted on 12/01/2021 8:02:35 AM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: Cboldt

John Adams Quotes
Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.….
We have the other now in the USA by a factor of way too many.


62 posted on 12/01/2021 8:03:11 AM PST by tflabo (Truth or tyranny )
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To: Ronaldus Magnus

Kavanaugh seems to be arguing for middle ground.


63 posted on 12/01/2021 8:03:18 AM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: Ronaldus Magnus

I’m thinking 15 weeks excepting the life of the mother. It’s getting obvious.


64 posted on 12/01/2021 8:03:21 AM PST by cowboyusa (America Cowboy up! )
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To: Ronaldus Magnus

Wow, Kavanaugh is making the strongest argument of any justice against a viability standard!


65 posted on 12/01/2021 8:05:43 AM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: Ronaldus Magnus

Alito getting frustrated


66 posted on 12/01/2021 8:06:41 AM PST by Jrabbit
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To: cowboyusa

I think that’s exactly where this is headed.

Roberts very clearly seems to be leaning toward removing viability as the line, reworking Roe and Casey to announce a new version of “undue burden.”

I think it is very possible that they move the line in accordance with Mississippi law, and Mississippi wins, but Roe and Casey stand as reworked.


67 posted on 12/01/2021 8:08:00 AM PST by TexasGurl24
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To: cowboyusa

Roberts says he just found Breyer’s comments “compelling”. Now he is going into the idea that unpopular decisions may have “super Stare Decisis”. Is he trying to trap the opposing counsel or is he trying to shore up her argument?


68 posted on 12/01/2021 8:08:25 AM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: Jrabbit

Thomas,Gorsish and Alito would overturn Roe.


69 posted on 12/01/2021 8:08:33 AM PST by cowboyusa (America Cowboy up! )
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To: Jrabbit

My mistake, that was probably Alito. Kavanaugh may not have spoken yet.


70 posted on 12/01/2021 8:09:34 AM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: Ronaldus Magnus

However, in that very same question he said that Casey said nothing about viability.


71 posted on 12/01/2021 8:09:42 AM PST by TexasGurl24
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To: TexasGurl24

I think Casey will be overturned, but Roe will stand.


72 posted on 12/01/2021 8:10:24 AM PST by cowboyusa (America Cowboy up! )
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To: Cboldt

Alito nailed it! The woman and baby have the same interests pre and post viability, so why is viability so important? The Abortion attorney couldn’t answer.


73 posted on 12/01/2021 8:10:33 AM PST by NorthernDancer
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To: NorthernDancer

Shut up Bryer.


74 posted on 12/01/2021 8:11:24 AM PST by cowboyusa (America Cowboy up! )
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To: NorthernDancer

Breyer trying to add a new argument for the pro-abortion side.


75 posted on 12/01/2021 8:12:00 AM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: NorthernDancer

How did he make that argument? If you could explain in real simple terms for those of us who are legally challenged. Thank you!


76 posted on 12/01/2021 8:13:33 AM PST by MustKnowHistory
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To: Ronaldus Magnus

Not sure what Thomas’s point was.


77 posted on 12/01/2021 8:14:30 AM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: Ronaldus Magnus

Rikelman said something to the effect that the constitution (the constitution) now rejects the notion of a woman’s proper role being that of mother.

Kavanaugh brings up the notion of SCOTUS taking a side at all.


78 posted on 12/01/2021 8:17:50 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Ronaldus Magnus

Not sure who was speaking, but I don’t know why he is going back to the establishment of the 14th amendment and contemporaneous laws that allowed abortion before quickening. He didn’t sound friendly to the pro-life side. Who was that?


79 posted on 12/01/2021 8:18:27 AM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: MustKnowHistory

I’m not an attorney but he’s trying to distill the issue to something other than stare décisis, the sacred cow of the abortion position in this case. I think he’s opening up for states to consider the fundamental questions.


80 posted on 12/01/2021 8:20:36 AM PST by NorthernDancer
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