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Russia upgrading MiG-31 interceptors to triple their combat effectiveness
https://www.bignewsnetwork.com ^ | 26th November 2021, 03:03 GMT+11 | ANI

Posted on 11/28/2021 5:01:15 PM PST by RomanSoldier19

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To: RomanSoldier19

Hmmmmm, a Russian built MIG-31 being upgraded to be 3 times more capable, lets see, that should make it a good match for a late model Vietnam era F-4 Phantom II, as long as “Cartman” isn’t flying the F-4, but even then it would probably be a close call.


21 posted on 11/28/2021 6:15:33 PM PST by fatman6502002 ((The Team The Team The Team - Bo Schembechler circa 1969))
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To: AndyJackson

Them were the good ol days.


22 posted on 11/28/2021 6:16:59 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: texas booster

Putin does not need to steal anything — Biden will get it for him


23 posted on 11/28/2021 6:20:50 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: AndyJackson

It’s a fourth generation fighter, so the net effect of improving its availability will be presenting our 5th generation fighters more targets to choose from.


24 posted on 11/28/2021 7:25:03 PM PST by Paal Gulli
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To: Dundee

Yep... one trick pony. Well, two if you count recce.


25 posted on 11/28/2021 7:54:54 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
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To: Paal Gulli

“It’s a fourth generation fighter, so the net effect of improving its availability will be presenting our 5th generation fighters more targets to choose from.”

I know our “male” pilots are being taught how to scramble in heels. First lesson is which color heel to choose from. The second lesson is how fast they can get their vax passes out of their purses.


26 posted on 11/28/2021 7:59:52 PM PST by chuckb87
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To: ASOC

The Soviets used a Cray Super Computer to upgrade their weapons systems. Jimmah Cahtah loaned one to them under the guise that they would use to modernize their automotive industry.


27 posted on 11/28/2021 8:10:08 PM PST by shotgun
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To: Tallguy

Except it wasn’t. The difference between airframes is slim though.


28 posted on 11/28/2021 8:57:58 PM PST by NorseViking
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To: texas booster; Chode; SkyDancer; Salamander; carriage_hill; Lockbox; MtnClimber; All

They’re upgrade means instead of refined fuel it now uses unfiltered old deep fryer oil. The fuel spray nozzles have been removed from the line so the fry oil chunks won’t clog the nozzles.


29 posted on 11/28/2021 9:00:36 PM PST by mabarker1 ((Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress !!!!)
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To: DesertRhino; Chode; SkyDancer; Salamander; carriage_hill; Lockbox; MtnClimber; All

it is one of the few combat aircraft built primarily using stainless steel.

(Because The Skunkworks used most of the Ruskie Titanium to build Our A-12/SR-71’s©️™️🤣)

The first prototype flew in 1964 and the aircraft entered service in 1970. It has an operational top speed of Mach 2.83. Although its thrust was sufficient to reach Mach 3.2+, its speed was limited to prevent engines from overspeeding at higher air speeds and possibly damaging them beyond repair.


30 posted on 11/28/2021 9:18:15 PM PST by mabarker1 ((Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress !!!!)
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To: fatman6502002

“should make it a good match for a late model Vietnam era F-4 Phantom II”

How about the SU-57? What western fighter eould you match it up against? Do you feel that “fifth generation” correctly characterizes the Felon?


31 posted on 11/28/2021 9:34:06 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: RomanSoldier19

32 posted on 11/29/2021 4:58:59 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: MercyFlush
The 31 has an obsolete radar profile. It might be useful against Ukraine or maybe Georgia but 5th and 6th generation fighters will kill it before the 31 pilot knows there’s a threat.
Not so fast. No one in Russia will spend the money to upgrade, unless there is a major benefit vs the newer generations.

Russian radars can see "stealth" fighters particularly since most are only sort of stealthy like the F-35 and Grippen 3

This page has some of that info :
AirForce technology: MiG-31 Foxhound Interceptor Aircraft

33 posted on 11/29/2021 5:08:51 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Dundee

Will the refit still fire missiles that track and kill other 31s? So far as I know the only 31s ever shot down were shot down by another 31.


34 posted on 11/29/2021 6:11:48 AM PST by MercyFlush (DANGER: You are being conditioned to view your freedom as selfish)
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To: PIF

With upgraded engines, the MiG -31 could operate at it’s Mach 3.2 potential top speed and very high altitudes for long enough to facilitate the launch profile of Russia’s purported nuclear powered hyper sonic missile. Maybe a few other types precision stand off missiles, including conventional hypersonic and ASAT types, where a very high speed, high altitude delivery platform provides an enabling role or confers a significant tactical advantage. This would explain the otherwise inexplicable upgrade of an otherwise obsolete air frame. Think a fleet of 300+ combat aircraft with performance roughly comparable to that of an SR-71 armed with effective, very long range standoff weapons for potential tactical employments. Our current air defense systems would be challenged by the aircrafts abiity to evade or outrun them by sheer speed, distance and altitude combined with modern counter measures alone. No low observables needed. They are stout aircraft and built to last forever. Cockroaches will be flying them long after we have exited stage right if the Russians do proper upgrade .


35 posted on 11/29/2021 6:25:14 AM PST by rdcbn1
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To: mabarker1

In fact, the engine myth was stipulated by the defector Belenko who used it to explain why his “P” version was redlined at Mach 2.8.

If you’d look into the engine, which is particularly huge, you can camp in the combustion chamber.

Mig-25 was never tested for top speed for safety reasons but is likely capable of Mach 3.5.

According to manuals, the operation at high speed is not recommended due to excessive wear on a relatively crude airframe. The problem was also the overheating of fuel and armament cook-off due to air friction.

For the above reasons, it wasn’t recommended to exceed Mach 2.8 on regular patrol missions but the rule didn’t apply for combat situations.


36 posted on 11/29/2021 5:21:14 PM PST by NorseViking
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