OK, both pro and anti-vaxxers, can we at least agree on this:
The current vaccines DO provide some degree of protection ( at least your chances of being hospitalized and dying are markedly decreased ) against Covid but that protection wanes after several months.
Can we agree on this: STOP POLITICIZING SCIENCE, MEDICINE, AND PUBLIC HEALTH!
Impeach 46.
This admission is just justification for continuous boosters.
This is what data from Israel and other highly vaccinated countries has indicated for some time now. In the United Kingdom, for example, between February and September of this year, 72 percent of all Covid-related deaths were among the vaccinated. In Scotland the situation was even worse: 80 percent of Covid deaths occurred among those who had been injected with the vaccines.
The Vaccine apologists will remind us however, that since the vast majority of those in Israel are vaccinated, the 28% who died from Covid-related illnesses are the UNVACCINATED, but when you convert this to deaths per million, those vaccinated are STILL better protected from death by a significant order of magnitude.
I don’t think the pro vaxxers want to lose that extra paycheck, so will continue to lie about the benefits of injecting poison into your body
No proof that statement is true.
When you take everything into consideration, meaning misreported COVID hospitalizations and deaths, COVID vaccine injuries and deaths, survivability rate for different age groups and overall survivability, misreported or omitted deaths in small trials by Pfizer, I don't think I can agree with that statement because those stats or assertion that you are making has not been fully peer reviewed.
Where are the peer reviewed studies on this? No trials on the elderly or children, only young and healthy volunteers, and they still lied about how many DIED from the jab.
All we have are the CLAIMS from the manufacturer and the (very political) CDC.
“OK, both pro and anti-vaxxers, can we at least agree on this:”
No, because you slurred opposition to the covid vaccine by using the smear “anti-vaxxer.”
Most of us, the overwhelming majority of us, are opposed to the covid vaccine because it is inherently dangerous, and not because it is a vaccine.
Also, according to the experts not in employ of the government or drug companies, a cost benefit analysis says the vaccine is more dangerous for more people than the virus.
I don’t agree they provide some degree of protection.
Neither do masks, which we were told the same thing.
If masks work, why vaccines?
If vaccines don’t keep you from getting covid, or from the bad effects of covid, why take the risk of repeated vaccinations?
Why not take care of your health, eat right, build your natural immunity?
I have been practicing the above, and have not had 1) the Flue or 2) a cold for over 10 years. On top of that, I never contracted covid, even though neighbors on both sides of me did.
Both sets of neighbors are overweight, eat junk, don’t take supplements, don’t get enough sunlight, etc.
But hey, live like hell and take a pill (or vaccine) that’s been the story for 50 years, with rising cancer rates, etc.
in 1900 one in 20 died of cancer, now it’s approaching 1 in 3.
makes Covid look tame, no?
I agree with you.
But good luck getting everyone to agree.
The article’s title makes it sounds like it doesn’t provide any protection which is very very misleading.
No.
Human population starts with +80% with full or partial immunity to covid.
lf someone is exposed to covid who is partially immune, their immunity is completed. This is excellent. They are typically asymptomatic or extremely mild symptoms.
For anyone else, their survival rate is from +99.5% to as high as 99.995% for children. These are headline numbers. The actual numbers are higher.
Out of the .005% to1.5% depending on age and comorbidities, the vaxx ->may<- protect them or it may not. They can still get serious covid, be hospitalized, spread covid, die of covid.
I am in the middle of amish country, and very early on, they decided they could not follow their way of life and lock down. Further, they do not like hospitals, vaccines (generally), can't social distance, etc.
They decided to ignore it all.
Covid went through their population within a couple months. No testing during that time. Since they were not going to get a treatment it had not point, so people carried on with their lives.
Here's my point: their numbers were no different than any other population that did the other stuff. And they achieved herd immunity while everyone else was locked down, isolated, jabbed, etc.
Same results - and they includes vastly undercounting vaxx severe reactions and deaths from various causes after vaxxes.
So how large an impact can we attribute to the vaxx?? Little.
I hasten to add that the Amish avoided 100% of the vaxx side effects.
The Amish achieved BROAD immunity and will have significant protection from the next variants.
The jury is out on whether or what kind of immunity a vaxxed person gets, if they go on to get covid.
The jury is out on any long term hazards of the spike mRNA vaxx. For all we know, it makes people susceptible to other viruses or cancer, etc. No one knows.
I know from personally talking to Amish that this information is true. I also go to a doctor that has half his practice made of Amish patients. I talked to him and he verified this.
I would not agree. All the statistics have been manipulated. How can you know what is true?
They don’t provide protection, they lower the likelihood of death... by about 50 - 60% depending on which study/numbers you look at, and those percentages are getting lower by the day.
They don’t stop infections or transmission, never did, never will. Vaxxed are just as likely to catch and pass on the virus as the unvaxxed.
AND..... There is indeed GROWING evidence that the vaccinated are actually MORE susceptible to catching the virus than the unvaxxed.
Stay tuned.
I don’t acknowledge any “official” statistics as valid.
There are too many financial incentives and social pressures to cook the books.