Posted on 11/18/2021 4:35:07 PM PST by MNJohnnie
Vehicles from Tesla Inc. and electric sport utilities from rival brands are among the least reliable models sold in the United States, a reflection of the risks of new technology, Consumer Reports said on Thursday.
Consumer Reports, a nonprofit organization that evaluates products and services, said Tesla, the world’s most valuable automaker, ranked 27th out of 28 brands, just ahead of Ford Motor Co.’s Lincoln brand.
“Electric SUVs as a vehicle category is the absolute bottom in terms of reliability,” Consumer Reports director of vehicle testing Jake Fisher said Thursday during a presentation to the Detroit Automotive Press Association.
Among electric SUVs, Fisher said Ford Motor Co.’s Mustang Mach-E “is the only one with above-average reliability.”
Consumer Reports recommends the Tesla Model 3 sedan and rates its reliability as “average.” But Fisher said the rest of Tesla’s vehicles are below average.
The popular Model Y SUV, Tesla’s best-selling vehicle, has problems with poorly fitting body panels, leaks, and issues with its climate control, Fisher said.
The larger Model X SUV “still has problems with the falcon wing doors,” Fisher said.
Consumer Reports has been critical of Tesla’s Autopilot and Full Self Driving automated driving systems. Fisher said Consumer Reports still has concerns that drivers will rely too much on technology that cannot safely take over driving, but that did not factor into the reliability scores.
“Full Self Driving is not full self-driving at all,” Fisher said. “It’s a convenience feature.”
Electric vehicle drive systems, or powertrains, are not the main source of problems, Fisher said. The issues reported by owners are with other features.
Manufacturers “are using EVs as a technological test bed,” Fisher said. “Those are the things that go wrong.”
The top-ranked brand overall in the survey was Lexus, and eight of the ten top-scoring brands were Japanese. That continues a long-running trend.
Smacks forehead half way to work with dead battery. “Crap. I forgot to plug it in last night.” “AAA will bring me 5 gallons of electricity.”
It’ll start in California. Ban of new car sales in the state by 2030. Rest of USA by 2040. The only vehicles you can buy would be used. But then gas stations would not longer sell gas. Only a super charge.
An auto site I read a lot had an expert who analyzes competing auto designs for auto manufacturers interviewed. After taking apart a Tesla, he thought that the electronics was years ahead of others, but the manufacturing maturity of Tesla was approximately that of Kia at the beginning of this century. Not terrible, but well below most others today.
I can’t get over Lincoln’s position in that article. I had a friend who was a white collar worker in Ford’s HQ: 50 years ago, you couldn’t even get a JOB in a Lincoln assembly plant until you had worked in another Ford assembly plant for at least 10 years. Obviously, Ford is not putting much money or effort into this anymore.
as long as stills are still a thing and corn is available we can always keep the internal combustion engine alive.
“EVs...sorry,no sale! Ever! “
You got that right! We took a road trip through northern Arizona a couple of weeks ago. I saw a couple of Tesla’s sitting at the charging station at a Shell station. We were in and out in about 20 minutes and the Tesla’s were still there when we left.
The Environmental Impact of Lithium Batteries - IER
(Electric cars may be ecological disaster)
https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/renewable/the-environmental-impact-of-lithium-batteries/
Anybody know how much firewood it takes to make the heat per gallon of ‘shine?
When I test drove a Tesla I was not impressed by the car itself. I thought it was basically average. BUT when I took it out on the highway, it was pretty incredible. 0 to 60 in about 2 seconds, like being on a rocket. Better acceleration than 99% of gasoline vehicle. Drove it for about a half hour and did not notice any real decrease in the battery or overall performance.
At least in prototype form, hydrogen run fuel cell powered cars could be THE answer
In 30 years. I think Toyota is right.
Conversely, Tesla has billions to invest....can they shorten the "learning" curve on quality issues faster than than the competition can achieve parity.
Consumer Reports is heavily influenced by the UAW just like their buddy Biden. He recently drove around in an electric hummer and praised GM for leading the way in developing EVs. That statement is so blatantly false it’s embarrassing. Tesla sells more EVs in a month than GM has in the last 6 years. GM claims they will be all electric by 2035. I don’t think GM will still be around in 2035.
I get CR and put little stock in their reports. I’ve had Silverados and GMC trucks for years and have very little problems with them. The same goes for washers, dryers and tv ‘s.
“Full Self Driving is not full self-driving at all,”
Full Self Driving hasn’t been released yet. Still in beta.
If CR is influenced by UAW, why are Lexus, Mazda, and Toyota the top three on their reliability list?
See. LOL!
Ping.
yeah read up about Joe Stalin and how he did with the “wreckers there Consumer Report. Be a real shame if someone told Big Joe Biden you all was wreckers
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