Posted on 11/15/2021 11:53:18 AM PST by Kaslin
I wouldn’t bet the farm.
But I’ll bet she knows the votes are in the Senate too
The GOP would like to keep their fingerprints off this but there will be Assistant Democrats available if necessary.
Or they will be.
“Could Face The Senate Shredder”
Oh heavens to Betsy!
Those poor Demonrats getting into trouble trying to buy votes with other people’s money.
I’m sure everyone felt bad for them for about ½ a nanosecond.
She put family leave back in there and child care in there for a reason. You think Collins and Murkowski are gonna vote that down?? No way...That would cancel Manchin and Sinema...I’m sure that’s the plan.
This is a very good analysis. Thanks for posting it.
Here’s a thought:
What if the Republicans announced that they will allow a vote (ie not filibuster) separate bills on some of these points?
For example, drug price negotiations. The Republicans can say we will all vote against it but we’re not going to filibuster it. Then let the Democrats either fail to pass it as a separate bill (without being able to blame the Republicans) and therefore show their base that they are really just the Uniparty Version D, or actually run the risk of passing it, in which case the pharmaceutical companies will learn why you shouldn’t feed socialists (Democrats) $31 million per election (including $1.3 million to Bernie Sanders and $883,000 to Jon Ossof for example), which is nearly double what they gave to Republicans.
Why do they give double to Democrats and then expect the Republicans to save them from the socialists that they bought and paid for?
https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/summary.php?ind=H04&cycle=2020&recipdetail=S&mem=Y
GOP will betray us every time
Just in general, this is what should be done on legislation, to have separate votes on separate distinct items.
For example, there is a case to be made for drug price negotiation. Let’s have that debate, and let’s vote on legislation on that specific point.
This business of passing 2000 page bills which nobody has read, is absurd. And the business of stuffing such bills with provisions such as illegal alien benefits, which wouldn’t pass as stand alone bills, should not be permitted.
What about the tax on animal/meat producers and the entire “green” crap?
Who would understand what they read anyway? The way they word the “amendments” always seems to be backwards to what they are doing.
Well, it’s either the Sinate shredder, or the FED printer.
Here we go again....BS! The RINOS ALWAYS side with the rats! It’s a done deal...period.
I totally agree. And Republicans could come out with that as a policy proposal now.
- It would highlight what a mess it is to entrust the legislature to people don’t believe in the idea of the common good, as shown by the Democrats public policy legislating meltdown
- By withholding the filibuster it would scare the crap out of the industries who have been funding the socialists.
All those giveaways........Bidung thinks he’s another FDR.
Actually, this is why it is RECONSILIATION bill. Those are not to be filibustered. There will not be filibuster on this.
Dems know that this bill could never pass the filibuster threshold. That’s why they separated it in two - the just signed bipartisan bill (1.2 trillion monstrosity) and this craziness.
But reconciliation bills are supposed to include only budgetary stuff. So that’s why parliamentarian is opposing it, because it is against the rules!
And, they probably will not get even the needed 50 votes!
As I understand it, the parliamentarian had ruled against certain items being included. But can the parliamentarian be pressured to allow certain things back in? Supposedly a reconciliation bill is only supposed to allow for items already budgeted, and not to be used for brand new programs or spending.
Yes I know that. Republicans used reconciliation too (for the Trump tax bill, for example).
But the main reason they “need” to stuff these various separate bills into one big reconciliation bill is because they (correctly) expect the Republicans to filibuster anything else. (They probably also want to hide goodies in a giant omnibus bill but they don’t actually say that).
If the Republicans called out these various goodies and said we won’t filibuster them, it would take away their excuse to put them in reconciliation and make them face the music in their own party, at the same time making the pharma industry (among others) think twice about trying to buy off the socialists.
The parliamentarian is a person, which is supposed to watch over the rules of the senate. But he/she is not even a senator, and has no vote. His/hers decisions are kind of guidelines, based on ethics, on the interpretation of rules of conduct. Ruthless congressmen/senators can override them, if the accept the risks of being called on that in the press and setting a precedent the other party can use some next time.
Since the press is in cahoots with Democrats, they can really ignore his/hers rulings.
“But I’ll bet she knows the votes are in the Senate too”
Sure thing! Especially after seeing the ABC survey report why EVEN twenty REPUBLICANS will vote for this - ha ha ha do some research before you push the surrender Monkey line.
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