[Freedom_Is_Not_Free]

My point being, the “curve” is not flattenable, and neither masks nor shut-downs nor vaccines are having any appreciable effect on reducing the spread of C19. All of these measures are useless or nearly so.

We are left with the fact that we would have been better off with NO countermeasures and simply taking out hit and getting herd immunity as quickly as possible, while using early Ivermectin and microbial antibody treatment for individuals in groups that are at high risk of death.

Every new day it is more and more certain this entire response is 100% about totalitarian government control and not a single iota about health care.

If we can’t “flatten the curve” in 20 months with draconian measures, then the curve can’t be flattened and countermeasures immediately suspended.

[daniel1212]

" My point being, the “curve” is not flattenable, and neither masks nor shut-downs nor vaccines are having any appreciable effect on reducing the spread of C19. All of these measures are useless or nearly so. We are left with the fact that we would have been better off with NO countermeasures and simply taking out hit and getting herd immunity as quickly as possible, while using early Ivermectin and microbial antibody treatment for individuals in groups that are at high risk of death. Every new day it is more and more certain this entire response is 100% about totalitarian government control and not a single iota about health care. If we can’t “flatten the curve” in 20 months with draconian measures, then the curve can’t be flattened and countermeasures immediately suspended. "

i think that about the only flattening of “curve” is in summer months when people are outside more, but with such an easily transmitted mutating virus a long-term flattening awaits enough being infected and recovering and those most susceptible to serious effects of it die. That is likely how it went with the 1918 flu.

As regards those most susceptible, again, what is disproportionate is the response to the underlying effectual cause of death as compared to the final trigger of death. Meaning that since almost all Covid-assigned deaths are among those with preventable comorbidities and the very aged (who typically have the latter) then the death toll would be far far less if the country was fit and healthy, among whom Covid deaths are rare. And obesity is estimated to be responsible for 4.7 million deaths worldwide and 18% of all deaths in the USA (the latter stat was from way back in 2013). However, there is no emphasis on dealing with this epidemic anything close to proportionate with the response to the virus that finally kills the unhealthy car.

The below maps are revealing, although skewed due to poor reporting in rural areas and impoverished locations, plus population density, average age and climate has an effect relative to Covid lethality rates.