No, and "For the first time in the last two months, coronavirus cases are trending upward again in a majority of states" seems misleading:
Daily Trends in Number of New COVID-19 Hospital Admissions in the United States
Posted on 11/12/2021 6:08:11 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
You didn’t disprove anything. You merely repeated your belief in obviously false information. And you put quote marks around words that I didn’t use. You are a nut.
No, and "For the first time in the last two months, coronavirus cases are trending upward again in a majority of states" seems misleading:
Daily Trends in Number of New COVID-19 Hospital Admissions in the United States
fireman15 wrote: “You didn’t disprove anything. You merely repeated your belief in obviously false information. And you put quote marks around words that I didn’t use.”
You should read the links I provided. You should even read your own link.
The “statistics” and “studies” that show that the current vaccines still are effective tend to use data that goes back to the time period before the vaccines were even released. It is all very dishonest with constant backtracking in futile attempts to explain why the majority of “new cases” and deaths in many locations with high rates of vaccination are fully vaccinated individuals.
As compared to “natural immunity” the vaccines do not hold up to any scrutiny. You are nothing but a useful idiot for the Democrats.
My point being, the “curve” is not flattenable, and neither masks nor shut-downs nor vaccines are having any appreciable effect on reducing the spread of C19. All of these measures are useless or nearly so.
We are left with the fact that we would have been better off with NO countermeasures and simply taking out hit and getting herd immunity as quickly as possible, while using early Ivermectin and microbial antibody treatment for individuals in groups that are at high risk of death.
Every new day it is more and more certain this entire response is 100% about totalitarian government control and not a single iota about health care.
If we can’t “flatten the curve” in 20 months with draconian measures, then the curve can’t be flattened and countermeasures immediately suspended.
fireman15 wrote: “As compared to “natural immunity” the vaccines do not hold up to any scrutiny.”
Not true. Do some research from credible sources:
https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/covid-19-studies-natural-immunity-versus-vaccination
DD’s Nebraska med link, refers to studies posted by the CDC, FYI.
John Hopkins Doctor Marty MaKary is calling the CDC study “highly flawed“
Not true. Do some research from credible sources:
It is not worth arguing with you over this. You wouldn't know a credible source if it bit you in the ass! You have swallowed the propaganda to the point that you are beyond any hope. You will believe whatever the Biden administration and their lackeys in the CDC tell you without question. It is not credible that immunity from vaccinations is better than natural immunity from fighting off an actual exposure. This is why we have areas all over the world that are have high vaccination rates accompanied by high Covid infection rates. You site one study cited by the CDC that is known to be flawed which contradicts hundreds of other studies which have been peer reviewed and shown to be valid.
I do appreciate your post because it shows that someone who considers them elf to be a conservative can still be so easily misled. This demonstrates that despite unprecedented access to information that the public can easily be swayed by the MSM, politicians and social media. The sad thing in your situation is that it does not matter what the credentials and experience level of the people who are trying to correct you are... and I have not even bothered to go into that because you will choose to believe Joe Biden over the rest of us and even belittle those trying to inform you of the actual circumstances. It indicates to me that we have a very serious problem in this country and probably most places in the world. Our current education system has completely failed the country.
i think that about the only flattening of “curve” is in summer months when people are outside more, but with such an easily transmitted mutating virus a long-term flattening awaits enough being infected and recovering and those most susceptible to serious effects of it die. That is likely how it went with the 1918 flu.
As regards those most susceptible, again, what is disproportionate is the response to the underlying effectual cause of death as compared to the final trigger of death. Meaning that since almost all Covid-assigned deaths are among those with preventable comorbidities and the very aged (who typically have the latter) then the death toll would be far far less if the country was fit and healthy, among whom Covid deaths are rare. And obesity is estimated to be responsible for 4.7 million deaths worldwide and 18% of all deaths in the USA (the latter stat was from way back in 2013). However, there is no emphasis on dealing with this epidemic anything close to proportionate with the response to the virus that finally kills the unhealthy car.
The below maps are revealing, although skewed due to poor reporting in rural areas and impoverished locations, plus population density, average age and climate has an effect relative to Covid lethality rates.
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