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New Vaccine Science Shows Mandates Are Unwise
Townhall.com ^ | November 3, 2021 | Betsy McCaughy

Posted on 11/03/2021 4:55:57 AM PDT by Kaslin

New scientific findings in the prestigious Lancet Infectious Diseases journal blow a hole in the argument that workers need to get vaccinated to protect those around them. The findings prove the foolishness of forcing police and other public employees to get jabbed or lose their pay. And President Joe Biden should retract his order to the Occupational Safety and Health Administration to compel large employers to mandate vaccines.

The Journal reported Thursday that COVID-19 vaccines have "minimal" impact on preventing transmission of the delta strain. Delta is the COVID strain currently causing over 99% of U.S. cases.

Vaccines protect the people getting the shots from serious illness, but they don't stop the delta variant from spreading to others.

Don't get me wrong. Americans should choose to get vaccinated. The key word is "choose." Though shots are no guarantee against getting infected and spreading it to others, they provide significant protection (90% or more) against hospitalization and death. I'm triple-jabbed.

Choosing not to get vaccinated is choosing to risk your own life. The health risk to others is minimal.

Most vaccines -- against polio, smallpox, measles and other diseases -- prevent infection and spread. But not COVID-19 vaccines. Now that the battle is against the delta variant, they've become disease-tamers rather than infection preventers.

Tell that to Mayor Bill de Blasio, who gave New York City employees until Monday to get at least one shot or be sent home without pay. As of Monday, 9,000 are on unpaid leave because they have refused the shots. Twenty FDNY companies were shuttered because many of New York's bravest refuse the vaccine. Police Commissioner Dermot Shea claims the mandate will not further diminish the number of New York's finest on the street. That remains to be seen.

Governors and mayors from Maine to Los Angeles are demanding that public employees, and even nurses and doctors, hailed just months ago as heroes, get vaxxed or go without a job.

Maine Gov. Janet Mills says, "just as vaccination defeated smallpox and vaccination defeated polio, vaccination is the way to defeat COVID-19." Sorry, Governor, but you don't know what you're talking about.

Just as politicians don't read the bills before voting on them, they don't keep up with science but still want to tell the rest of us what to do.

The groundbreaking findings in Lancet show that fully vaccinated people who came down with COVID infected others in their household at the same rate (about 25%) as unvaccinated people did (about 23%). The vaccinated had just as much viral load in their upper respiratory tract, making them just as contagious. "Our findings show that vaccination alone is not enough to prevent people from being infected with the delta variant and spreading it," study co-author Ajit Lalvani said.

The British researchers also found that vaccinated people were only somewhat less likely to contract the virus (25%) compared with the unvaccinated (38%). That conflicts with Centers for Disease Control and Prevention data showing the vaccinated are far less likely to contract COVID.

One thing is for sure: The science is uncertain on this. So, government should not be using a heavy hand to impose mandates claiming to make workplaces safer.

Meanwhile, the White House is pressing large companies to mandate vaccinations and calling on OSHA to enforce that policy with hefty penalties. The Build Back Better bill increases the penalties tenfold to as much as $700,000 per incident for hazardous conditions, threatening bankruptcy for all but the largest enterprises. The Biden administration expects to publish the rules in the Federal Register in the coming days, affecting about two-thirds of the private sector workforce.

Yet the new science undercuts OSHA's claim that unvaccinated people are a workplace hazard. So far, workplace mandates have been challenged at least 39 times in federal courts with little success, but the new scientific evidence may change that.

Lancet Infectious Diseases stressed the urgency of improving current vaccines or developing new ones to actually "protect against asymptomatic infections and onward transmission."

Foolishly, the Biden administration and Democrats in Congress vilify the vaccine developer Moderna for making a profit and threaten to seize its patents. It's possible COVID will continue morphing into new variants, requiring new vaccines from companies like Moderna.

When you're fighting a war -- in this case, against a killer disease -- attacking your own ammunitions maker is no way to win it.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: pandemic; science; vaccinemandate

1 posted on 11/03/2021 4:55:57 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

2 posted on 11/03/2021 5:00:55 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Kaslin
Americans should choose to get vaccinated.

I'm genuinely exhausted from hearing this, from BOTH SIDES! I feel like a lot of these editorials say it as a way to lend some type of credibility to their story like saying, "I'm not racist, I have black friends."

Stop. Just stop. Seriously. Telling us we should get vaccinated is 100% unadulterated virtue signaling. If your health situation is such that you think that getting a vaccine is going to help you survive something that's already statistically survivable, then go make an appointment at CVS to get it done, but for the love of all that is holy, stop telling the rest of us that we should get vaccinated. It's old hat. Just tired of it. Jesus.

3 posted on 11/03/2021 5:01:56 AM PDT by rarestia (“A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one.” -Hamilton)
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To: Kaslin

“Most vaccines — against polio, smallpox, measles”

The above are viruses are not harbored in animals. Corona viruses are. All my life I have heard “there is no cure for the common cold”. Corona viruses are cold viruses.


4 posted on 11/03/2021 5:05:36 AM PDT by Neverlift (When someone says "you just can't make this stuff up" odds are good, somebody did.)
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To: Neverlift

You shouldn’t let facts get in the way with emotions...


5 posted on 11/03/2021 5:10:07 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: Kaslin

killer disease? threatening less than 1% of the population...


6 posted on 11/03/2021 5:15:22 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world or something )
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To: Kaslin
More on Original Antigenic Sin and the Folly of Our Universal Vaccination Campaign A deeper look at a decisive limitation of our adaptive immune systems.

Playing God (badly)

7 posted on 11/03/2021 5:20:39 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: teeman8r
You know what's selfish?
8 posted on 11/03/2021 5:22:17 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: Kaslin

My coworker just walked into my office and told me our other IT guys brother has just died one week after getting the J&J. I’m guessing he as mid forties.

Said he just landed a new job that had Federal contracts and against his wanting to, he went ahead and got jabbed. I was told he got real sick after the shot and passed last night.

I’ve personally not know one person who has died of the virus, but now I know of one who has died from the vaccine.


9 posted on 11/03/2021 5:27:35 AM PDT by CodeJockey (Think for yourself. (While it's still legal))
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To: rarestia

Cannot make an informed decision without the real information. Apparently the real information seems to be scarce at this time.


10 posted on 11/03/2021 5:38:13 AM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting)
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To: Lockbox

The problem as I see it is that they could release real information, and no one would believe it because the lies have been flowing like wine.


11 posted on 11/03/2021 5:40:29 AM PDT by rarestia (“A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one.” -Hamilton)
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To: Lockbox

“Cannot make an informed decision without the real information. Apparently the real information seems to be scarce at this time.”

Of course. There are precious few sources for information these days.
‘Narratives’ are popular, and a narrative is a tale, not necessarily true, that leads to a conclusion the tale spinner wants. Narratives are NOT information.


12 posted on 11/03/2021 6:12:18 AM PDT by JackFromTexas (- Not For Hire -)
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To: Kaslin

She didn’t link or give the title of the study.
I know it’s lancet infectious disease journal...


13 posted on 11/03/2021 6:13:51 AM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: Kaslin

Without a source reference to The Lancet paper, the author’s article is absolutely worthless and pure opinion...of which there is plenty here & elsewhere. The author doesn’t even name the paper.

Furthermore, it cites “The Journal reported Thursday”????

It’s Wednesday morning. Is Townhall so desperate for content to publish such tripe?

The closest I can find is,

Community transmission and viral load kinetics of the SARS-CoV-2 delta (B.1.617.2) variant in vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals in the UK: a prospective, longitudinal, cohort study,

published 10/29 (Friday, so “maybe”). Perhaps the sloppy author has a crystal ball. /s

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00648-4/fulltext

(it took incredible effort on my part to both remember to and physically engage my fingers to type ctrl/c & ctrl/p to insert that URL. /s/s)

The Lancet Infectious Diseases Journal post linked above possibly could be interpreted in the manner outlined in the post...but it is glaringly absent the quoted “minimal” in the OP.


14 posted on 11/03/2021 6:24:31 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: mewzilla

i like that...

hehehe

puts the FU in FUnny.

t


15 posted on 11/03/2021 7:09:38 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world or something )
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To: Mount Athos

See my comment right after yours. It may be the referenced study, but I had to dig and read the whole thing to qualify that statement (I’m researching for a project to be published here, so I’m trying to be accurate, the hour expended worth the effort since I hadn’t seen this study AND, since it opens citing the disingenuous definition of ‘vaccine’, I fully expect it to be mis-cited or buried due to the interpretation quoted below):

“Interpretation
Vaccination reduces the risk of delta variant infection and accelerates viral clearance. Nonetheless, fully vaccinated individuals with breakthrough infections have peak viral load similar to unvaccinated cases and can efficiently transmit infection in household settings, including to fully vaccinated contacts. Host–virus interactions early in infection may shape the entire viral trajectory.”


16 posted on 11/03/2021 9:21:55 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: CodeJockey

A few months back a coworkers sister got the jab. A week later she was getting clots, then she had a stroke and almost died. She had clots all over her body, and had to have 1 of her legs amputated between the hip and knee. Still in a hospital recovering from the stroke and other symptoms, while she is being fitted with a prosthetic leg.
She is in her mid-30’s, healthy, had no comorbidity. Got the jab because she was pressured into it. What a load of crap! No reason for a healthy person under 55 to get this jab. None.


17 posted on 11/03/2021 9:52:28 AM PDT by vpintheak (Live free, or die!)
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