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Santa Fe County Sheriff says Baldwin fired 'suspected live round' on 'Rust' set
CNN ^ | October 28, 2021 | Sandra Gonzalez and Lisa Respers France,

Posted on 10/28/2021 8:16:29 PM PDT by xxqqzz

The Santa Fe County sheriff on Wednesday said the gun discharged by actor Alec Baldwin during a fatal shooting on the set of "Rust" fired a "suspected live round."

Investigators believe they have recovered the "lead projectile" and shell casing from the ammunition that struck and killed the film's director of photography, Halyna Hutchins, 42, and injured director Joel Souza. "The facts are clear: a weapon was handed to Mr. Baldwin. The weapon is functional and fired a live round, killing Ms. Hutchins and injuring Mr. Souza," Sheriff Adan Mendoza said at a joint news conference between the Sante Fe County Sheriff's Office and district attorney's office. Approximately 500 rounds of ammunition -- a combination of blanks, dummy and live rounds -- have been seized from the set in New Mexico, Mendoza said. He said they believe the lead projectile that was fired from the gun was recovered from Souza's shoulder.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: alecbaldwin; halynahutchins; joelsouza; manslaughter; rust; shooting
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The sheriff indicates they seized live rounds from the set. The sheriff is also implying that a major issue in the investigation is how the live round got into the gun Baldwin fired.

It seems like major negligence by the armorer if live ammunition for stored along with blanks, etc. Was the bullet planted by a union worker leaving, did the local replacements decide the fancy replicas would be fun for target practice? I would agree that should be a major focus of a criminal investigation.

The article also states there was no footage of the shooting, which implies it might not have been part of rehearsal. I am suspicious that he was just screwing around. He seems a little old to play with guns.

There also could be more problems like this with star actors, who are used to having people do things for them. A less established actor might be more likely to check if the gun was loaded.

There are many failings here. How did live ammunition get on the set. At least three people were supposed to check if it was loaded. There were apparently previous firings of live rounds that were not properly investigated.

Presumably, they were be more careful about various safety issues in the future.

1 posted on 10/28/2021 8:16:29 PM PDT by xxqqzz
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You can’t get anything past him.


2 posted on 10/28/2021 8:18:06 PM PDT by DannyTN (T)
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The weapon fired a live round.

Alec was taking a smoke break, and wasn't anywhere near the scene, apparently...

3 posted on 10/28/2021 8:20:50 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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AB is guilty as h377.


4 posted on 10/28/2021 8:21:24 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Critical Marx Theory is The SOLUTION....)
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I know, let’s all get stoned and make a movie!


5 posted on 10/28/2021 8:23:15 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Arrest and charge Anthony Fauci. )
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I saw an interview with a young actor who’s been on quite a few shoots and has been “shot” on camera many times because he usually plays a bad guy. He said the armorer was well thought of by fellow crew members and he’s surprised by the idea that she’s the one to blame. He said she was qualified and knew her stuff. However, it seems the “long knives” are out for her, which explains all the hit pieces we’ve seen and the attempts to absolve Alec of any blame. His PR company is apparently earning every penny.


6 posted on 10/28/2021 8:26:11 PM PDT by Prince of Space ( Let’s go, Brandon! )
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Duke boy John Schneider describes the proper procedure when guns are on the set. (If you haven’t seen him for awhile you may not recognize him.)

https://youtu.be/2O6gudWsxIM?t=122


7 posted on 10/28/2021 8:39:23 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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I only know one armorer but he’s the best in the business and he flat stated that if the pistol had a live round in it, it’s the armorers fault. It’s not the responsibility of the actor to check the weapon, in fact he won’t allow it. He’ll show the actor the weapon and prove that it’s safe but he won’t allow them to jack with it. If they jack with it he shut’s down the set until he’s cleared the weapon and declare it safe.


8 posted on 10/28/2021 8:39:50 PM PDT by Dusty Road (")
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To: DannyTN

True! LOL


9 posted on 10/28/2021 8:47:14 PM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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Thanks for the info. I’ve heard so many things the last week that I don’t know what to think...except Alec will most likely walk or get a slap on the wrist. So glad “justice is blind.” 🤬


10 posted on 10/28/2021 8:47:39 PM PDT by Prince of Space ( Let’s go, Brandon! )
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That makes sense, because otherwise what’s the point in having an armorer? I just figured all guns used on set were non-functional, but guess not.


11 posted on 10/28/2021 8:48:13 PM PDT by bigbob
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The armorer us responsible for loading the weapon, and the AD is responsible for checking it, in this case by dry-firing it on the presence of the actor. Both failed their jobs.

Arick Baudwin’s only negligence was he did not observe and confirm the AD checking.


12 posted on 10/28/2021 8:49:18 PM PDT by Fido969 (45 is Superman!)
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It’s not the responsibility of the actor to check the weapon
Thank you - I said the same thing last week and got flamed for it.
13 posted on 10/28/2021 8:49:51 PM PDT by dainbramaged (Your friends might get me in a rush but not before I make your head into a canoe.)
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I believe it was only her second movie as head armorer. I don’t know how much exposure he could have had to her.


14 posted on 10/28/2021 8:50:18 PM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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Lots of failures to go around no doubt but the biggest failure was Baldwin failing to properly check the weapon before handling and then failing to keep the weapon pointed away from unintended targets as well as pulling the trigger with it pointed at something he didn’t want to kill.

Baldwin committed murder.


15 posted on 10/28/2021 8:52:44 PM PDT by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house.... But the fact checkers said thein story was false!)
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I wouldn’t get ahead of myself about AB walking, him being the producer carries a lot of responsibility for what happens on the set. If some of the rumors are true about what was going on behind the scene’s he could be held culpable. He might walk but he’s going to have a bad limp for the rest of his life.
This one will pain him for the rest of his already failing career.


16 posted on 10/28/2021 8:56:48 PM PDT by Dusty Road (")
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I think he was dissatisfied with the cinematographer’s job performance and fake shot her - but there was a live round that the hammer dropped onto


17 posted on 10/28/2021 8:59:53 PM PDT by atc23 (The Matriarchal Society we embrace has led to masks and mandates and the cult of "safety")
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His PR company is apparently earning every penny.
Maybe so. But this is something that will haunt him the rest of his life. Especially if he saw her when she dropped.

No PR firm can fix that.

I wonder if he wakes up everyday hoping it's all a dream?

Hey Alec. When you close your eyes at night, among other things, think Trump effect.

18 posted on 10/28/2021 9:00:15 PM PDT by lewislynn (Fox news: the most irrelevant after the fact useless news source...Fake news? try NO news)
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Throughout the articles I have had a problem with the term “prop” gun applied to real metal devices. To me “prop” guns would be feather light pieces of plastic.


19 posted on 10/28/2021 9:03:06 PM PDT by Retain Mike ( Sat Cong)
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You can’t get anything past him.

Yep. I thought we all kind of figured that out, on our own. 😀☝️

20 posted on 10/28/2021 9:04:08 PM PDT by Mark17 (USAF ATCer, Retired. Father of USAF pilot. ATCers & pilots, the quintessential elements of aviation)
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