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Being duped,doesn’t mean they are dumb. Smart people get fooled.

You bring up Florida, which I will point out isn’t mandating vaccines or requiring masks, a d is removing state funding to those institutions there that do mandate. There was an article on It just today. It woild therefore appear that florida does realize that there is danger and risk,in the vaccines, and they recognize that asks do not work contrary to the government’s insistence that they do despite evidence to the contrary.

Many doctors have come out stating that the masks do nothing more than contained large particles- larger than covid particles. Yet their voices are downed out by the screaming left and the screeching msm.

[[Like I said……a very large group of people would need to be involved in the Covid death conspiracy for it to work]]

A very ,arge group of people are. There is also a very y large group of people involved I. The scam of “man-caused climate change’ too- infzct it is now a world wide scam, and they are helped and protected by the screeching msm, fake news. Despite there being reams of evidence that man is not causing climate change, the, ie is still,bring foisted on those that don’t bother to,check the facts themselves. This doesn’t make them stupid or dumb, it simply makes them folks that have fallen for the propaganda either because they don’t have time to check for themselves, or because they are lazy. There is enough evidence to prove that man is not causing it, but this doesn’t phase the liars pushing g the scam one bit. It’s. Now a world wide scam, with many many many people in on it.

[[Just so we can make a conspiracy derived from some Blogger be real.

So everyone who doesn’t believe some random unknown unverified Twitter Dude is duped?]]

I said nothjng about some “random Twitter blogger”- I am talking about actual doctors and nurses and professionals speaking out about what is going on only to be fired or ostracized. tner ehas been article after article on these instances posted to fr over the last year and a half where this has happened.. factual news of firings. Ostracisings, doctors being attacked by the profession for simply,stating folks should have the right to try everything and not just be locked into quickly developed medicines that have been proven to cause more harm than ivermectin (there is an article posted just the other day how regeneron has caused all kinds of damage to organs, and doesn’t increase chances of survival or hospital stay length, while ivermectin has helped, does not cause organ failure, and increases chances of survival.

I felt the same as 6ou did for a lo g time, thinking that there couldn’t possibly be a cover-up of this mag itutde. There has however been so much in the news though to make me change my mind. To say it can’t happen, just isn’t true, coverups do znd are still happening- russia-gate. “Man caused climate change “, the stolen election- and yes, I beleive this vaccine ma date crap is one too because of how unethical doctors all across the nation are being over it (not a,lowijg operations because the person isn’t vaccinated, denying help because of no vsccine, etc. Because of how vehemently the profession attacked hcq actually going so far as to flat out lie about it, and about ivermectin too.

Sorry, but I do not beleive that we are being told the truth. Report after report show that deaths are being labeled as covid when they aren’t.

We were t told about blood c.ots, heart problems, or any possible, one term health effects cro the vaccines. They just demanded that people,get them, and nkw we have the admission that they don’t know how it’s gonna affect kids, but they demand they get it anyways so that they can study the effects?

Do,you think that is ethical?

I do not think children need to be vaccinated for Covid-19.

Do I know if the Covid vaccine may have more side effects in children more than the any vaccine? No. I do not know but since children are not effected by Covid as adults or older adults are, it’s irrelevant.

Children with certain birth defects, cancer, had a transplant, their parents should consult their Doctor.

So I had a Cardiologist appointment in September.
Great patient-doctor relationship.
We talk about hunting and shooting usually.
He came into the room with an Intern and he was wearing a “Wounded Warrior” polo.
He’s in his early 40’s.

Just want to give you a somewhat good visual of the guy.

I asked him, kind of in the middle of the conversation to get his real off the cuff response:

“I’ve been hearing about people getting Myocarditis by the truck loads from the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines, have you been having that issue a lot?”

The Doc’s answer surprised me.
He said they have seen 2 patients, younger men in their 20s with Para-Carditis (the sack around the heart) they received anti inflammatories and we’re fine after 3 days. Treated from home.

He continued as I waited expecting to hear of 80-100 people with Myocarditis due to vaccines…….then he surprised me again. He said they had ONE woman with Myocarditis as a result of a Covid infection in spring and he said she’s still being treated for that and other issues.

A bit more background……..

I go to Traverse City Heart and Vascular Institute.
It’s the 4th best hospital in the region for Cardiac.
The closest to me also.

#1 Cleveland Clinic
#2 U. Of Michigan
#3 Beaumont Troy, Michigan
#4 Traverse City Heart

So it’s top rated and busy.

This is the type of information that beats any Media source.
To me, this first hand account out weighs anything on the internet, or stats presented by any Federal source. This is real.

You are right in a way about both sides having misinformation.
However, the Leftist media would be the opposite side to you and not other Conservatives.

Why? Because every Vaccinated Conservative I know in my circle or bubble Do Not approve of Vaccine mandates, or any mandates for that matter. No Conservatives I know want children vaccinated or wearing masks.

People can be both……vaccinated and against Government intrusion.

But sorry I went long. It’s been a pleasure and interesting convo Bob.