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To: Bob434

I do not think children need to be vaccinated for Covid-19.

Do I know if the Covid vaccine may have more side effects in children more than the any vaccine? No. I do not know but since children are not effected by Covid as adults or older adults are, it’s irrelevant.

Children with certain birth defects, cancer, had a transplant, their parents should consult their Doctor.

So I had a Cardiologist appointment in September.
Great patient-doctor relationship.
We talk about hunting and shooting usually.
He came into the room with an Intern and he was wearing a “Wounded Warrior” polo.
He’s in his early 40’s.

Just want to give you a somewhat good visual of the guy.

I asked him, kind of in the middle of the conversation to get his real off the cuff response:

“I’ve been hearing about people getting Myocarditis by the truck loads from the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines, have you been having that issue a lot?”

The Doc’s answer surprised me.
He said they have seen 2 patients, younger men in their 20s with Para-Carditis (the sack around the heart) they received anti inflammatories and we’re fine after 3 days. Treated from home.

He continued as I waited expecting to hear of 80-100 people with Myocarditis due to vaccines…….then he surprised me again. He said they had ONE woman with Myocarditis as a result of a Covid infection in spring and he said she’s still being treated for that and other issues.

A bit more background……..

I go to Traverse City Heart and Vascular Institute.
It’s the 4th best hospital in the region for Cardiac.
The closest to me also.

#1 Cleveland Clinic
#2 U. Of Michigan
#3 Beaumont Troy, Michigan
#4 Traverse City Heart

So it’s top rated and busy.

This is the type of information that beats any Media source.
To me, this first hand account out weighs anything on the internet, or stats presented by any Federal source. This is real.

You are right in a way about both sides having misinformation.
However, the Leftist media would be the opposite side to you and not other Conservatives.

Why? Because every Vaccinated Conservative I know in my circle or bubble Do Not approve of Vaccine mandates, or any mandates for that matter. No Conservatives I know want children vaccinated or wearing masks.

People can be both……vaccinated and against Government intrusion.

But sorry I went long. It’s been a pleasure and interesting convo Bob.


72 posted on 10/28/2021 2:29:15 PM PDT by David Chase
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To: David Chase

If he has seen pe3sonaly a couple cases of heart problems I. That one hospital, the it stands to reason that this Is happening all across the nation.

As I mentioned, usually when a drug shows risk,for injury or death, it is taken off the market like fen phen was, not pushed on little kids with a “we gotta use it in order to see what it does” mentality.

Your doctor’s experience and answers pretty much summer the news reports that we are seeing.

Are there “bucketloads” of victims? As far as we know, no. (But don’t forget, many people get sick and don’t suffer enough to alarm alarm enough that they seek medical help, then one day they have issues or drop dead. We are seeing more and more cases where kids are getting it, the dropping g dead while playing sports, or simply being In class. These are news reports, not blog e tries by people with agendas)

There are enough heart problem cases now after getting the vaccine (which you doc backed up with his own answers) to warrant a serious I vestigstion and research into the problem. It has gone from anecdotal instances to now an issue that warrents further investigation at the very least.

Correlation of course doesn’t mean causation, until numbers begin to climb, then it needs to be taken seriously when we are talking about people’s health, especially younger people. Men into,their 40’s are suffering heart problems after getting the shots, this is verified y, once again, by news investigations- not some random internet blog post.


73 posted on 10/29/2021 8:24:10 AM PDT by Bob434
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