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More vaccinated people are dying of COVID-19.
Mid-Michigan NOW ^ | 10-28-21 | STEPHEN LOIACONI, Sinclair Broadcast Group

Posted on 10/28/2021 8:13:39 AM PDT by Paul46360

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To: David Chase

The stats are crap.

For all we know some of these people are croaking from the vaxxes, not the coof.

Or, if already hospitalized, acquired a nosocomial case from vaxxed employees.

As for herd immunity, I’m thinking we reached that months ago, which is why Deep State hasn’t exactly been forthcoming with info regarding antibody studies.


21 posted on 10/28/2021 8:39:44 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: Red Badger

I would gladly take a saline shot with nothing in it in exchange for an official CDC vaccine card.


22 posted on 10/28/2021 8:42:55 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: taxcontrol

[[At what point does getting the vaccine make you statistically MORE likely to die than not getting it?]]

That’s the important question. Even people vaccinated for flu die of flu, but with covid vax, Is the vax making it more apt to happen? Less? Equal?


23 posted on 10/28/2021 8:43:32 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: David Chase

You are putting an awful lot of faith in statistics that are kept by vax pushers who have very likely seriously overcounted deaths __BY__ covid for political reasons.


24 posted on 10/28/2021 8:47:23 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Paul46360

Since almost everyone over 80 is vaccinated, I suspect they will all die within the next 25 years or so.


25 posted on 10/28/2021 8:48:58 AM PDT by Poser (Cogito ergo Spam - I think, therefore I ham)
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To: DSH
Interesting, too, is the breakdown of deaths involving COVID in September 2021, compared to such deaths in September 2020, within reported age categories.

For those between the ages of 0-17, there were 76 COVID deaths in September 2021, an increase of 443% compared to September 2020 (i.e., during which there were 14 such deaths).

For those between the ages of 18-29, there 643 COVID deaths in September 2021, an increase of 648% compared to September 2020 (i.e., during which there were 86 such deaths).

For those between the ages of 30-39, there were 2,189 COVID deaths in September 2021, an increase of 831% compared to September 2020 (i.e., during which there were 235 such deaths).

For those between the ages of 40-49, there were 4,936 COVID deaths in September 2021, an increase of 687% compared to September 2020 (i.e., during which there were 627 such deaths).

For those between the ages of 50-64, there were 16,183 COVID deaths in September 2021, an increase of 431% compared to September 2020 (i.e., when there were 3,048 such deaths).

For those between the ages of 65-74, there were 14,066 COVID deaths in September 2021, an increase of 223% compared to September 2020 (i.e., when there were 4,353 such deaths).

For those between the ages of 75-84, there were 11,679 COVID deaths in September 2021, an increase of 122% compared to September 2020 (i.e., when there were 5,263 such deaths).

For those 85 years or older, there were 8,293 COVID deaths in September 2021, an increase of 50% compared to September 2020 (i.e., when there were 5,512 such deaths).

26 posted on 10/28/2021 8:54:24 AM PDT by DSH
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To: DSH

[[ *The CDC defines “deaths involving COVID” in these terms: “Deaths with confirmed or presumed COVID-19, coded to ICD–10 code U07.1.” ]]

Hmm, I wonder if the cdc will change their “death involving herpes” to “deaths with confirmed or presumed herpes”?

Just because a person has something doesn’t mean they died FROM that something, or even that that something exacerbated the person’s other conditions to the point of causing death.

Correlation doesn’t t mean causation- we can’t say “Supposedly most people have herpes, and we know all
People who have herpes dies, therfore herpes kills everyone who has it”


27 posted on 10/28/2021 8:54:42 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: WildHighlander57
Take out the “presumed”, and what would the statistics show?

Who knows? Not that I truly understand the question.

To my mind, it remains an apples-to-apples comparison, since the "deaths involving COVID" designation is that which is put on individual death certificates by doctors, hospitals, and other individual health care entities throughout the country and then reported as such to the NCHS. However those myriad designations were being made in September 2020, they were still being made in September 2021.

Given this, the question remains: why are there more deaths involving COVID now, when millions of people in the U.S. have been vaccinated, compared to this same time a year ago, when no one had been vaccinated? Many more deaths, to my eye. I don't myself know the answer to that question, but I think it fair to pose it.

28 posted on 10/28/2021 9:00:46 AM PDT by DSH
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To: Red Badger
The question arises, were they ever truly vaccinated or did they get a saline shot with nothing in it? That would account for the ‘breakthrough cases’ and lower the number of people with adverse side effects.

They would have natural immunity if they had a saline shot because everyone has been exposed to COVID-1984 since it's been around for more than two years .

29 posted on 10/28/2021 9:03:42 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: Paul46360
that is not unexpected as more of the population gets immunized.

How does he explain the death rates in GA where there are 52% unvaxxed and 48% vaxxed?


30 posted on 10/28/2021 9:03:52 AM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: Bob434
Hmm, I wonder if the cdc will change their “death involving herpes” to “deaths with confirmed or presumed herpes”?

Just because a person has something doesn’t mean they died FROM that something, or even that that something exacerbated the person’s other conditions to the point of causing death.

Correlation doesn’t t mean causation- we can’t say “Supposedly most people have herpes, and we know all People who have herpes dies, therfore herpes kills everyone who has it”

The "death involving COVID" designation is what doctors, hospitals, and the like throughout the country are putting on individual death certificates. This is what is being reported to the NCHS and then reported out by the CDC.

31 posted on 10/28/2021 9:05:41 AM PDT by DSH
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To: DSH

And it’s also how they get their “700,000 covid deaths and rising” numbers to scare the public with


32 posted on 10/28/2021 9:08:27 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: David Chase

Key word is VARIANT..it mutates..therefore leaving the vaxx useless.


33 posted on 10/28/2021 9:11:26 AM PDT by Paul46360 (What??ME worry?)
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To: LittleBillyInfidel

Yes, I hate the “jab” label. Makes it seem totally harmless. It’s the way you talk to children to make the big nasty shot seem like fun and games. Only really stupid kids fall for that.


34 posted on 10/28/2021 9:11:36 AM PDT by all the best
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To: LilFarmer

Theynwill likely states that more elderly are dying, “which is expected, even when they are vaccinated”, and ,Kiely point to elderly dying when flu hits even when vaccinated. The vaxx pushers have their bases covered so that no matter which way the wind blows, they knave an answer. Same as with “man-caused climate change” where kthey blame changing climate on man whether it gets warmer or colder


35 posted on 10/28/2021 9:12:01 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: patriot torch

82% of deaths in the UK between Sept 20 and Oct 17 were fully vaccinated.


36 posted on 10/28/2021 9:13:32 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Arrest and charge Anthony Fauci. )
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To: Bob434

“ You are putting an awful lot of faith in statistics that are kept by vax pushers who have very likely seriously overcounted deaths __BY__ covid for political reasons.”
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I get what you’re saying. I do understand it but don’t totally agree.

All Covid information, infections, deaths, etc., is passed to the State (whatever State) from the Local District Health Departments.

The States then compile the results.

In order for numbers to be fudged, I mean seriously screwed up or just plain lied about, the number of people involved in that task is huge.

The Hospital Staff, the Hospital, the Local Health Dept., the State.

South Carolina isn’t exactly a Liberal Blue State.

To get that many people to lie and play along with a conspiracy means that Not One Conservative can be involved. Not one Trump supporter and anti-mandate person can find out or know about this.

Those odds are close to zero keeping such a conspiracy a secret.

That’s not even factoring in other countries. Poland, Czech Republic, Japan are very conservative nations. Are they also in ca-hoots with false numbers?

The same type of stats are being reported in other States, even very Red States. I will agree the Left can and do lie about many things without remorse.
But I can’t pretend to believe that people on our side, people of the Right in Red areas are also lying. Because they must be for this conspiracy to be true, or work.

You might think, “They’re afraid of losing their job.” , well I don’t about that because people are quitting their jobs because of mandates……certainly being told to go along with a conspiracy is an equal enough reason to fight.

So now there are approx 730,000 Covid deaths since early 2020.
Even IF some were lies, some were mistaken, or an error, and we minus 200,000 for that………it’s still over half a million deaths from this virus and China has not been punished for what they’ve done.


37 posted on 10/28/2021 9:14:47 AM PDT by David Chase
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To: Bob434
And it’s also how they get their “700,000 covid deaths and rising” numbers to scare the public with

So, throughout the country, the doctors and hospitals are collectively engaged to falsify death certificates in order to "scare the public"? Okay.

I might have imagined that such a conspiracy would have more run along the lines of showing that there were fewer deaths, now that people have been getting vaccinated, so as to demonstrate the effectiveness of the vaccines which they are otherwise so anxious to push.

38 posted on 10/28/2021 9:20:36 AM PDT by DSH
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To: David Chase
China has not been punished for what they’ve done.

Punish China? You need to keep up. SARS-COV-2 was designed in the good ol' U S of A. They'll be no "punishing" of China, and both China and those within the U.S. government who know what's going on fully understand that, and have understood that from day one.

I'm astonished at how many people are still guzzling down the "China virus" Kool-Aid.

39 posted on 10/28/2021 9:24:57 AM PDT by DSH
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To: woodbutcher1963

I identify as a laboratory animal—no way they would try to vaxx me!


40 posted on 10/28/2021 9:26:44 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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