Posted on 10/20/2021 6:43:33 AM PDT by Kaslin
Umm, see Citizens United vs FEC. Apparently, corporations do have first amendment rights.
People like this need to shut the *bleep* up. He’s actually comparing what Abbot is doing in guaranteeing the liberty of the people to Biden’s tyrannical diktats? This is Mitt Romney level stupidity. But he, that’s Town Hall for ya.
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When you mandate what people must have injected into their bodies, something that is UNREMEDY-ABLE, employers are crossing a very critical line.
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If you see an employer hold down an employee, and forcibly give him a vaccination, you let us and authorities know. That’s called assault, and it’s a felony. But that scenario is just a lie, isn’t it?
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What if a private employer suddenly implemented a policy that all employees must take up smoking, and must smoke at least a couple of cigs on their breaks, verified by supervisors? Would you be okay with this?
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Then non-smoking employees would be free to find employment elsewhere, and the employer would face overwhelming odds against finding qualified employees for producing his product.
Simple.
You forget that many of these employer mandates are being pressed down on the employers by a tyrannical federal mandate.
You forget that many of these employer mandates are being pressed down on the employers by a tyrannical federal mandate.
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Wrong. Re-read my posts. Just because the title article favors Biden’s pro-vaccine mandate or Abbott’s anti-vaccine mandate doesn’t mean that my objection places me on the other side. All of these government mandates against corporation personnel policies are wrong.
If I’m forced to choose my tyranny, I’ll choose the one which allows for the most liberty.
Again, no one is being prevented from getting vaxxed if they want to. Abbott’s order doesn’t change this.
Again, no one is being prevented from getting vaxxed if they want to. Abbott’s order doesn’t change this.
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Sure. I’ve never said otherwise. This is about whether or not government entities have a right to mandate that companies require or not require that their employees get vaccinated.
Governments have no such right.
I understand your reticence to endorse any government mandate, and I too am against any government entities mandating a position. In a perfect world this would not be the case. But Abbott is merely pushing back against a greater tyranny of the federal government.
What about government employees? Do you favor vaccine mandates for government employees, many of whom are approaching retirement tenure when they would be vested in a retirement account, or do you want those governments to be able to mandate a vax for continued employment?
Thanks, I’ll stay on topic.
I like many Libertarians. There are some really good ones like Dave Smith.
This guy is not one of the good ones.
I did a quick Google search and I can’t find any articles by Mr. Sullum after Biden proposed the vaccine mandate criticizing his decision but now that a state wants to DEFEND freedom, he has a problem and needs to let his voice be heard.
I couldn’t find any articles from this guy from 2020 over the forced business closures by state governments either. For some reason, the state telling a business to close is fine with Mr Sullum but not allowing them to fire employees who don’t participate in medical experiments is goberné men that overreach.
I also see that he is ok with mask mandates in schools but I can guarantee you he would be against the 10 Commandments being in the schools.
What a creep and a grifter.
I really don’t think you are thinking this through. The original aggression was by the Federal Government. They said the businesses MUST enforce the mandates.
Gov. Abbott’s decision was a form of defense.
If the Federal government made a rule mandating that all businesses must immediately fire all Christians and a Governor passed a law saying that it was illegal to do that, would you criticize the Governor? Because that is what you are doing here.
Well, unless that person owns a business.
Preventing kill shots is SO authoritarian omg next thing they’ll be coming for my sex slaves!
Tin-pot-dictator wannabees come in all flavors...
Did you check from the list that I posted. There might be something. I have no idea.
I have no idea if he is a libertarian or not. I have never read him mention it. The only one who does is John Stossel.
As I asked in another post....
If the Federal government made a rule mandating that all businesses must immediately fire all Christians and a Governor passed a law saying that it was illegal to do that, would you criticize the Governor?
I don’t see the difference between these scenarios.
The federal government made the initial aggression against the liberty of the business owners. Sometimes acts of defense aren’t pretty nor would they be legitimate without some other instigating act.
Well, your scenario would be illegal because neither the government nor private business can discriminate on the basis of religion, but I agree with your basic point that both the federal and state laws infringe on the rights of the business owners.
I guess the question is is there compelling public health interest in firing Christians. I don't see it.
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