Colin Powell Dead--Covid [fully vaccinated]

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[NautiNurse]

Why are you so fixated on COVID alone rather than view it in a much larger context?

You are the one fixated on Covid fatalities to the exclusion of Covid morbidity costs. Contrary to your own ignorant propaganda, many hospitals were overwhelmed this summer with the explosion of Covid Delta variant. I am well aware of several hospitals forced to delay non-Covid related preventive and therapeutic procedures due to the deluge of symptomatic Covid patients who required serious and intensive therapy. Still other hospitals set up one or more field hospitals to manage the intensive Covid patients this summer.

Stop already with your one-horse pony show.

[NautiNurse]

No one seems to want to take that into account.

Excluding Covid morbidity costs in the equation is living proof of soap box ignorance.

[moonhawk]

I’ve been saying for a while that Covid adds about two years to the average lifespan... ;-)

[AmericanInTokyo]

Whatever.

[firebrand]

I was going to say something like that but I thought I’d read further.

Moderna, with its heavier dose, is not one that a sane person would give somebody twice, one week apart.

It was either a mistake or intentional.

[Clay Moore]

Both Moderna and Phizer say 28 days between injections at minimum.

[kabar]

You are the one fixated on Covid fatalities to the exclusion of Covid morbidity costs.

Simply not true. I am doing the opposite. IMO the number of Covid caused deaths is grossly overstated. We have had cases of people being counted as dying from Covid when they were killed in an automobile accident. This is not accidental. The Government is using the fatality numbers to scare people.

“Covid death” counts are artificially inflated. Countries around the globe have been defining a “Covid death” as a “death by any cause within 28/30/60 days of a positive test”.

Removing any distinction between dying of Covid, and dying of something else after testing positive for Covid will naturally lead to over-counting of “Covid deaths”. British pathologist Dr John Lee was warning of this “substantial over-estimate” as early as last spring. Other mainstream sources have reported it, too.

Considering the huge percentage of “asymptomatic” Covid infections, the well-known prevalence of serious comorbidities and the potential for false-positive tests, this renders the Covid death numbers an extremely unreliable statistic.

The vast majority of covid deaths have serious comorbidities. In March 2020, the Italian government published statistics showing 99.2% of their “Covid deaths” had at least one serious comorbidity.

These included cancer, heart disease, dementia, Alzheimer’s, kidney failure and diabetes (among others). Over 50% of them had three or more serious pre-existing conditions.

This pattern has held up in all other countries over the course of the “pandemic”. An October 2020 FOIA request to the UK’s ONS revealed less than 10% of the official “Covid death” count at that time had Covid as the sole cause of death.

I don't know what you mean by "Covid morbidity costs." Are you talking about cancer, heart disease, diabetes, obesity, etc.? I am certainly not discounting those costs. In fact, it supports my contention that our public health policies have focused too narrowly on Covid, and not on more significant issues. The huge amounts of money spent on businesses, individuals subsidies, and vaccines could have been better spent elsewhere. We should have targeted the most vulnerable and let everyone else live their lives. Covid is not a death sentence.

I am well aware of several hospitals forced to delay non-Covid related preventive and therapeutic procedures due to the deluge of symptomatic Covid patients who required serious and intensive therapy. Still other hospitals set up one or more field hospitals to manage the intensive Covid patients this summer.

There was a surge that dissipated. Our system was not overwhelmed. FL had its surge this summer, but it is now over. DeSantis handled it well without panicking.

Stop already with your one-horse pony show.

I don't think I can make my position any clearer.

[kabar]

COVID-19 hospitalizations in Florida--October 15

There were 3,257 people hospitalized for COVID-19 in Florida, according to a Friday report by the U.S. Department of Health & Human Services, which compiled data from 255 Florida hospitals.

The number of hospitalized COVID patients dropped by 96 from Thursday’s report. This continues a trend of decreasing hospitalizations.

COVID-19 patients occupied 5.83% of all inpatient beds in Friday’s report, compared to 6% in Thursday’s report.

Of the people hospitalized in Florida, 896 people were in intensive care unit beds, a decrease of 29. That represents about 14.05% of the state’s ICU hospital beds, compared to 14.55% from Thursday’s report.

[NautiNurse]

I don't know what you mean by "Covid morbidity costs."

Therein lies my point. You don't know, you don't understand. This is called ignorance.

[chajin]

Powell could have beaten the crap out of Klintoon, had he run in 1996.

When I was in college (and a McGovern liberal, may the Lord forgive me) half a century ago, I made the fearless prediction that our first black President would be elected in 2000, and he would be a Republican. Powell would have been the fulfillment of my prophecy, though looking backward now rather than forward, I wonder how different if any he would have been from GWB after 9/11.

[NautiNurse]

Your October stats are silly. Where are the June-August 2021 stats when Covid was raging through the south?

Here is an anecdotal story for you...

A county (pop. 425,000) government has an IT Department of six people, all under the age of 60.

In June, five of the six IT staff members became ill with Covid. Four of the six people were hospitalized with Covid. Two of the six people died. One of the deaths occurred at home. One of the deaths occurred in the hospital. Three of the hospitalized people with Covid were eventually discharged home to continue recovering from Covid.

Five of six employees in one IT Department. The department was decimated for weeks while five of six full time employee positions were out of service.

One employee did not get Covid. This was the only employee who had been vaccinated in the IT Department. This employee was left to do the work of six people until more could be hired to fill in for the five positions with employees who were too ill or dead.

The costs of Covid are greater than the two employees who died. Three other IT staff members were unable to work for weeks while they were hospitalized, subsequently recovering at home after discharge.

[kabar]

One of the graphs in post #227 shows hospitalizations for 2020 and 2021. It shows the summer peak.

The costs of COVID extend to the entire economy. Some are the result of examples like you cited while others are due to disastrous public policy. How much did the lockdowns cost the airlines and restaurants and all the activities that support them? How many people are leaving their jobs due to vaccine mandates?

[kabar]

“COVID morbidity costs” can cover a multitude of areas. I provided you some possible examples to elicit what you meant. Generalities are meaningless.

[Stentor]

Literally nobody has said that. Just like you can still get the flu after getting the flu shot. It just HELPS to reduce the chances. Why some people can’t understand that is mindboggling.

Anyone who starts a sentence with the word "literally" is quite capable of displaying prodigious levels of selective amnesia.

[Gene Eric]

The widespread “love” expressed for this jackass is disturbing.

Not only did this POS facilitate Marxism, he let Scooter Libbey hang at the hand of that opportunistic scumbag, Fitzgerald.

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To Hell with all of you praising this jackass.

[Elsie]

I was diagnosed 2 years ago.

Had the radiation and knocked it out.

[Elsie]

“It is easier to fool someone,
than to convince them they’ve been fooled.”
—Mark Twain

(I like the word ‘admit’ better)

[Elsie]

He died of cancer.

There are things we die FROM, but the REASON we die is:

 Genesis 2:16-17

¹⁶ And the Lord God commanded the man, “You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; ¹⁷ but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die.”

 

Romans 5:12
Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, so also death was passed on to all men, because all sinned.

[CarolinaReaganFan]

sorry to hear that.Do you believe falls were related to the vax? I do agree that visit limits in hosp and Hursing homes have bad effects for both patient and family.

[LS]

Yeah but we could have assassinated Saddam. Problem solved.