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There is little doubt that most young people will not die if infected with COVID-19, that some young people when given the vaccine have experienced myocarditis ( most survive with unknown long term consequences), that people who can document IgG antibodies to COVID-19 are immune and not likely to infect others and adults have the right to make their own personal heath decisions.

However having said that, people should be reminded of the terrible sick toll, chronic debilitation, crowded hospitals and deaths that happened until these vaccines were widely deployed. True they are not perfect but those who decide not to be vaccinated are at some risk. It is their choice and they really are not a significant threat to anyone who has survived the disease or has been vaccinated. The CDC has been overtly politicized but it has been shown that the best way to limit viral infectious illnesses such as measles, polio, mumps , rubella, chicken pox and in another era small pox was to vaccinate the highest percentage possible of the population. If you study medical history, those vaccines have stopped pandemics, suffering and the inconsolable grief that comes with them.

You have a fatal flaw in your argument.

You talk about the mrna experimental treatment shot as a vaccine like all the prior vaccines have been

you equate them when you place the mrna shot in the same camp of the vaccines prior that have ‘daved so many people’ in the past

they are nothing alike

and you ignore the fact that ADE is occurring in every person that has taken these shots, in every age demographic getting these shots:

https://theexpose.uk/2021/10/10/comparison-reports-proves-vaccinated-developing-ade/

True they are not perfect but those who decide not to be vaccinated are at some risk.

True, but are they actually vaccines, in the narrow sense of the word?

Regards,

However having said that, people should be reminded of the terrible sick toll, chronic debilitation, crowded hospitals and deaths that happened until these vaccines were widely deployed.

Which is 100% in untreated cases as effective, early intervention with prophylactics was prohibited.

IOW, the left’s intention was to kill people off to force the use of their experimental bioweapon vax and prohibiting effective treatment was the only way to do it.

And don’t forget the cold blooded murder of tens of thousands of elderly in nursing homes by stuffing them with active COVID cases.

There was way too much deliberate action taken to ensure the worst possible outcome of a virus that is 99% survivable.

True they are not perfect but those who decide not to be vaccinated are at some risk.

There’s risk in every decision people make.

Life cannot be made risk free and the medical community does a great disservice implying to people that it can be.

If I don’t get the vax, (or whatever they are pushing on me at the moment) I could *DIE*, as if if I did do what they advised, I could live forever.

The newsflash is, I *AM* going to die some day and when and how is God’s decision, not mine.

Nor can anyone guarantee me that if I follow their advice, I can change the outcome because they cannot predict the future and they simply do not know.

I will make my own risk assessment and decisions based on that, not pressure from someone else who doesn’t know me and doesn’t care about what happens to me.

However having said that, people should be reminded of the terrible sick toll, chronic debilitation, crowded hospitals and deaths that happened until these vaccines were widely deployed.
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Only thing I remember is watching videos of show me your hospital which were all empty and nurses making tic tock videos

My daughter is an ER nurse. Hospitals were not inundated during the Covid outbreak (except for insane triage and hazmat suit protocols). Nurses and doctors were making Tik Tok videos!?

Though you state the case for vaccines in a reasonable way which I agree with, the fundamental issue in this case is not whether the vaccine works or doesn't work.

The real issue is whether a government can force a citizen against their will to submit to an invasive medical procedure except in extreme cases, and even then.

A government that can force to you submit to an invasive medical procedure, quarantine, limit on freedom of movement or association, or shut down a private business for a pathogen with a fatality risk comparable to COVID-19 has no limitation on what it can force citizens to do.

Or what it will do to them.

If COVID-19 had a fatality rate of even 10-20% (never mind 30-50% which Smallpox or Bubonic Plague approach or exceed) we wouldn't be having these kinds of discussions.

If COVID-19 were that deadly, people would be clamoring for a vaccine, any vaccine (even one that had a 40% success rate and carried serious side effects) we would be voluntarily quarantining, and even barricading ourselves in our domiciles which we would protect with firearms from unwanted infected people (which in this case could be both vaccinated and unvaccinated people)

But COVID-19 is NOT that pathogen.

Bottom Line: We should protect those who need it and wish to be protected, and those who are vulnerable and unable to make the choice themselves. And those protections should range from quarantines and vaccines to effective treatments, whatever is available.