Posted on 10/09/2021 5:49:30 AM PDT by marktwain
Two different National Firearms Surveys were completed in 2021. One of them was done by Dr. William English of Georgetown University. He published a draft of his study in July of 2021. This correspondent wrote about the results in a previous article. A different 2021 National Firearms Survey was designed by Deborah Azrael and Matthew Miller, as reported in thehill.com, had preliminary results obtained by the Wall Street Journal.
Both surveys are the latest version of previous surveys. The English survey is much larger than the Azrael – Miller survey.
This correspondent received confirmation of the confusion from Dr. English:
As you surmised, there are two different surveys. The one I ran was separate from and much larger than the one by Azrael and Miller, and it looks like we focused on some different questions. I believe their team has done a version of their survey in a few earlier years as well. It appears that neither of us thought up a more creative name than “2021 National Firearms Survey” to publish our initial results for this year, which has understandably been a source of confusion.
Images of announcements of different 2021 National Firearms Surveys
Neither of the 2021 National Firearms Surveys (NFS) has been released, in their full form, with all data, to the public. From the limited information in the draft released by Dr. English and the coverage of the information obtained by The Wall Street Journal, and published in The Hill, it appears the surveys have somewhat different areas of focus.
The English 2021 NFS has much more information about defensive gun uses than does the Azrael and Miller 2021 NFS.
(Excerpt) Read more at ammoland.com ...
Survey? Like a poll?
Nonsense.
But they can and do track purchases.
Ammo is still very tight and very expensive. Hunting season near and all you see are exotics at $40-$100 per box of 20 rounds.
And primer’s? I have what I’ve had for years. In January I was told it would be 8 months before they would be available. Nothing yet. And Xi-O’Biden banned imports of Russian ammo. PPU manages to supply some basic ammo.
But by searching my component supply is larger than normal, most components are becoming more available.
The new gun owners are a huge issue. They buy a hand gun or rifle and they find it difficult to find ammo.
We need a powder and primer factory inside of Texas.
In today’s political climate, what sane gun owner would answer ANY poll about guns?
(smh)
And a large firearms manufacturer in the state as well.
Exactly so.
Over 90% of the precursor for modern gunpowder in the United States comes from one plant in Virginia, as I recall.
I believe it is the Radford Army Ammunition Plant.
“We need a powder and primer factory inside of Texas.”
Olin makes their products here in Illinois. I hear they are running 24-7-365 just trying to keep up. Our gun club ordered 15 pallets or so of ammo in January 2021.
We got the .45 and 5.56 last month. The 9mm is dribbling in a pallet at a time. 147 grain Winchester JHP is running $265 a case. .45 ball is $280. 1,000 rounds of 5.56 ball ammo is $590. That’s club cost which includes shipping.
Shotgun shells? Forget about them. Quoted delivery is “when we get them done.”
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I did not know that. I do remember that Herco had a plant on the James River somewhere between Ft. Lee and the Coast. At the time I was at Ft.Lee there was also a plastics factory on that river. It smelled awful and fish could not be used from it. That was back in 1971. World has changed since then, but a lot of factories are still in same place.
Agree.
ping for later
I shoot mostly 20ga, but reload 20ga and 12ga.
There aren’t many birds this year. Dove season is normally good here, lots of Asian doves. The morning doves are migratory, but the Asian doves (not native) stayed all year and there is no limit on them. Over last 20 years the morning doves were pushed out by the Asian doves. The week and a half near zero temperature here in Texas (when we had the power outage) killed a lot of the doves.
Have seen almost no quail.
So I still have some shot shells and more components.
That’s a national security problem.
For Big Guns.
I'm OK for powder, recently I bought some (CZ) Shooters World rifle powder for the first time. (they made A5744) Still had quite a bit of IMR3031. Also bought more than I really needed of Accurate #5 pistol powder. Have some other powders I use for varmint loads and shot shells.
Yes. One supplier is an issue.
Gunpowder is mostly made of nitrocellulose, whether it is for pistols or cannon.
Do we see a strategy here?
The poll done by English explains how they worked to get around that issue.
I am not sure they were completely successful, but they addressed it.
Link did not work for me. I’ve had some problems with that issue. It is a local access issue. Have talked to the ISP, but they are having issues.
The store I work at has primers and powder back in stock after many months.
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