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Joe Biden’s Vaccine Mandate Doesn’t Exist. It’s Just A Press Release
https://thefederalist.com ^ | OCTOBER 7, 2021 | By Joy Pullmann

Posted on 10/07/2021 7:10:10 AM PDT by Red Badger

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..FAKE POTUS, FAKE MANDATE......................
1 posted on 10/07/2021 7:10:10 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

If we lived under Rule of Law, then laws (actual laws that really existed) would matter.

But we now live under Rule of Men, and if they want people to do something, then people are just expected to obey the latest word from on high.

Of course, actual enforcement can be tricky. The government wants to avoid the situation from early in the 19th century when President Andrew Jackson said, “John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it.” That makes for an awkward situation where a potential lack of power can be seen by the public.

So, our government has persuaded Companies to do all the dirty work. Don’t need a law. Don’t need an EO. Just apply a lot of leverage and see how far you can push it. That’s the best way to enact Rule of Men. It’s Big Business working the will of Big Government. It’s fascism.


2 posted on 10/07/2021 7:18:32 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (China is like the Third Reich. We are Mussolini's Italy. A weaker, Jr partner, good at losing wars.)
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To: Red Badger
The mandate’s nonexistence shields the Biden administration from legal challenges that may ultimately restrict the Occupational Safety and Health Administration’s authority. Yet the mandate is still effective at compelling industries and companies into compliance, as it leaves room for any eventual issuance to target noncompliant entities.

This is illegal as hell. It is rule-making in avoidance of the Administrative Procedures Act. If Biden wants to make a rule he has to follow the Act. If he doesn't and it has any intended impact on anyone they can sue because it is a rule just one not made lawfully.

3 posted on 10/07/2021 7:24:52 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: ClearCase_guy
That's the EXACT plot of Atlas Shrugged. ..............
4 posted on 10/07/2021 7:25:36 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Companies don’t do all the work.

I have an official COVID-19 Vaccination Record Card to prove it.

The federal government will punish you severely if you make a fraudulent card.


5 posted on 10/07/2021 7:27:57 AM PDT by Brian Griffin ( )
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To: Red Badger

Until all the big go~along~to~get~along liberal companies formally enact this policy then get sued by Joe and Jill Public for illegalities and the Biden administration just shrugs its shoulders at the mess. Typical democrat move.


6 posted on 10/07/2021 7:28:43 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Quarantine the sick. Protect the vulnerable. Hang the guilty. Free everyone else.)
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Few understand this.

People I work with at the hospital, generally smart, think its the law. In a conversation I told them all it was, for now, was a TV speech, and that pedo Joe has zero authority to do this, and that osha hasn’t even made the “rule” anyway. They just stared at me lol.


7 posted on 10/07/2021 7:29:36 AM PDT by americas.best.days... ( Donald John Trump has pulled the sword from the stone.)
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Per the APA 5 U.S. Code § 551 (4)

“rule” means the whole or a part of an agency statement of general or particular applicability and future effect designed to implement, interpret, or prescribe law or policy or describing the organization, procedure, or practice requirements of an agency and includes the approval or prescription for the future of rates, wages, corporate or financial structures or reorganizations thereof, prices, facilities, appliances, services or allowances therefor or of valuations, costs, or accounting, or practices bearing on any of the foregoing;

8 posted on 10/07/2021 7:29:47 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Red Badger

Yep, just a CON JOB.


9 posted on 10/07/2021 7:34:41 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Liberals are setting up a system can be used by any thug/commie/fascist in power.

If the mandate’s NOT the law - and exist by bullying - then a future President could tell companies to fire people who don’t go to church once a week. Same high-handed thuggery... different ‘rules’...

How would ‘liberals’ feel about that level of power on someone else’s side? Muslim cultures use that one... commies have one ‘law’ for their people and a totally different one for their ‘elites’.


10 posted on 10/07/2021 7:34:52 AM PDT by GOPJ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOC_dcuJO48 Song: Willie (prick)Milley, Gen Austin & Winken Blinken)
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*** What this “government by press release” also allows is for Republicans like Indiana Gov. Eric Holcomb to complain about Biden’s tyranny while using zip, nada, zilch of their elected authority to stop it. Holcomb has used the same executive rule-by-decree throughout the lockdown era without effective restraint by a supermajority-Republican state legislature, even telling the press churches were required to deliver Christ’s Body and Blood his way while quietly keeping that part out of his executive orders, surely because government dictating religious exercise is obviously unconstitutional and would quickly have generated lawsuits.***

I’m glad the author mentioned my lame governor, Eric Holcomb. He’s a jerk. Though I’m glad he finally let our mask mandate stop in April and so far hasn’t reinstated it. Most Hoosiers I see want nothing to do with those damn face diapers any more.


11 posted on 10/07/2021 7:37:55 AM PDT by FamiliarFace
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And all the major corporations in the USA (as well as the many multi-nationals operating here with HQ outside the USA) are going to tell Biden to pound sand, “we ain’t complying”? Not a chance in hell. They are all falling over themselves to fall in line and comply with the non-rule rule.

As ClearCase_guy wrote above, “It’s Big Business working the will of Big Government. It’s fascism.”


12 posted on 10/07/2021 7:41:28 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“I believe the best social program is a job” ~ Ronald Reagan)
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To: Openurmind

And be ready. When it suits them, it’s going to be, “What mandate?”

The TV is going to condescendingly scold Americans for Joe just “expressing his feelings”, and people taking things the wrong way.

Companies will be praised for their misguided efforts and promised immunity from legal responsibility by Joe’s government. It will be explained that they were just acceding to demands from a frightened public.

This whole thing has a non-existent paper trail, and the people taking these “vaccines” will be left holding the bag.


13 posted on 10/07/2021 7:44:35 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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It’s all a big game of ‘Simon Says’..................


14 posted on 10/07/2021 7:48:47 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

He’s clever. He didn’t issue the decree, so no one can fight it. The dems and the media made it happen by assuming it had happened. It’s in effect even though it never happened.


15 posted on 10/07/2021 7:51:45 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Dethrone the ruling elite. Redistribute their wealth. Take away their power. Annul their privileges.)
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To: Red Badger

I think even the psychos who are pulling Joe’s puppet strings recognize the shaky legal ground the OSHA plan was on.

The primary purpose of the “mandate” was to get woke corporations to go ahead and issue their own mandates.

I think something eventually will come down from OSHA, but Joe’s puppet masters are happy to let the woke corporations do the heavy lifting in the meantime.

Long gone are the days where “big business” opposed Democrats (if that was ever the case.)

The corporate class is a fundamental part of the modern Democrat base.


16 posted on 10/07/2021 7:51:48 AM PDT by TexasGurl24
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The problem is, if the government did mandate it, the employers would probably be shielded from liability. Since the government has not mandated it, then the employers bear full legal liability for their inserting themselves into employee healthcare decisions. Side effect from the vaccine? Sue your employer. Get sick from COVID anyway despite the vaccine? Sue your employer. Heck, someone at work sneezes on you, sue em!


17 posted on 10/07/2021 7:53:38 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: ClearCase_guy

bump


18 posted on 10/07/2021 7:53:53 AM PDT by CPT Clay
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To: Brian Griffin
I have an official COVID-19 Vaccination Record Card to prove it.

The federal government will punish you severely if you make a fraudulent card.

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19 posted on 10/07/2021 7:54:19 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Yes, it IS fascism, textbook definition.

So, where are all the “anti-fascists”?


20 posted on 10/07/2021 7:57:27 AM PDT by Walrus (I do not consent)
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