Posted on 10/06/2021 7:23:59 PM PDT by The Bugler
BUTLER COUNTY, Ohio (KXAN) — A COVID-19 patient whose wife sued an Ohio hospital to force the facility to treat her husband with the anti-parasite drug Ivermectin has died.
Fifty-one year-old Jeffrey Smith died Sept. 25 after a monthslong coronavirus battle in the ICU, the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reports. Smith’s story made headlines back in August, when a judge in Butler County, Ohio, ruled in favor of Smith’s wife Julie Smith, who demanded the hospital give her husband ivermectin.
The Ohio Capital Journal reported Judge Gregory Howard ordered West Chester Hospital to give Smith 30 milligrams of Ivermectin every day for three weeks. Ivermectin, which can be oral or topical, is not FDA approved for the treatment of COVID-19 in humans. A large study out of Egypt that proponents of the unproven drug pointed to has been retracted. While Ivermectin is approved for humans to treat certain skin conditions (rosacea) and certain external parasites like head lice, the FDA warns human ivermectin is different than the one used in animals. Animal-specific concentrations, like those that may be available at livestock stores, are intended for large animals like horses and elephants, and these doses can be treacherous for humans
In her lawsuit, Julie Smith claimed she offered to sign documents releasing all other parties, doctors and the hospital from all liability related to the dosage. But the hospital declined. Smith said her husband, who was on a ventilator, had a very slim chance of survival and she was willing to try anything to keep him alive.
Another Butler County judge reversed Howard’s decision in September, saying Ivermectin didn’t show “convincing evidence” in treating COVID-19. Butler County Judge Michael Oster said in his ruling, “judges are not doctors or nurses… public policy should not and does not support allowing a physician to try ‘any’ type of treatment on human beings.”
Oster explained: “Even [Smith’s] own doctor could not say [that] continued use of Ivermectin would benefit him… After considering all of the evidence presented in this case, there can be no doubt that the medical and scientific communities do not support the use of Ivermectin as a treatment for COVID-19.”
Nevertheless, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reports, Julie Smith told Judge Oster she believed the drug was working.
From what I’ve read, the viral load is gone after 10 days. What’s left is the inflammatory and circulatory problems. Ivermectin won’t work so late into the illness. It needs to be taken either as a prophylactic or in that first week.
Did they give him remdesivir?
If you’re still hospitalized and declining at 20 days in, the guidelines say to treat with tocilizumab, which is a targeted monoclonal meant to turn off the cytokine storm trigger mechanism and gives a 7% edge. If you’re still walking around outside a hospital at 20 days, you’re beyond contageous, so what would be the point? a booster maybe?
(from SA below) The antibodies from Eli Lilly, Regeneron, and GlaxoSmithKline and Vir are approved for children age 12 and older and adults who have not been hospitalized whereas Genentech’s antibodies [tocilizumab] are for children and adults who are already on ventilator
here are the treatment guidelines.
https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/management/clinical-management/hospitalized-adults—therapeutic-management/
Scientific American describes the mabs used:
“The only thing that may save your life in far advanced virus disease is a large amount of intravenous vitamin C.”
TlIntravenous oxygen (ozone or h2o2) is more direct.
Good points & clearly stated.
However, many persons infected are not going to know they’ve been infected until symptoms appear.
So, typically, how long from “noticeable symptoms appear” to “end of monoclonals’ window”?
When I had Covid and it became pneumonia, what they called glass lung, they did NOTHING for me but sent me home. That was over a week after diagnosis. Taking Ivermectin and sticking to the MATH + protocol is the best thing a person can do, besides get monoclonal antibodies. They won’t give them to you until you test positive, which can be days after symptoms present, plus 1-3 days for the test to come back.
Prophylactic usage means taking a dose in a proscribed manner if you either are possibly exposed, or are trying to avoid infection at all. There are great results with that, better than the Vaxx for some. Since doctors won’t treat, why not treat yourself?
entropy12 is trolling this thread
Yes, true. The earlier the better, but after about 10 days it's too late.
The 28 or so studies the gov't cites were heavily biased toward late use of Ivermectin, hence the results showed the drug was ineffective.
Like giving a corpse an IED shock treatment, then declaring the IED to be ineffective at reviving heart attack victims.
Regeneron’s guidance sheet says “ within 10 days of symptom onset.”
But, if your po is below 94 (on your little home finger meter), it’s been said to refer the person seeking monoclonals to a hospital.
So I think that the blood oxygen is probably your window alarm - if it starts falling but is still above 94, start running for monoclonals whether it’s day 2 or 10.
NIH considers 94 as ‘moderate’ and below 94 as ‘severe’ disease:
Moderate Illness: no hypoxia( oxygen saturation (SpO) ≥94% on room air).
Severe Illness: Hypoxia, Spo “<94%” on room air
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK572140/
The lack of proper treatment killed him.
Everyone get your own stash of HCQ or Ivermectin.
BE READY
STAY STRONG.
We are at war.
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AMEN, brother. And the pro-"vaccine" trolls here at FR are their allies.
So do include Trump as a vaccine troll?
No the commies running our hospitals killed him.
You are beneath contempt.
You need ivermectin earlier
Holding people accountable should be the first priority with consequences much like a parole committee voting to release a rapist murderer into society and 3 days later he rapes and murders, judges are no exception. WE need some serious changes
I imagine his point is that since judges are not doctors or nurses then judges should not second guess doctors or nurses in the treatments they prescribe,
What about the Right to Try law that Trump got passed?
I don't think it applies. It allows terminal patients access to therapies that have completed Phase I testing but have not been approved by the Food and Drug Administration. Has Ivermectin passed any tests as a Covid treatment?
A friend of mine from highschool died a couple of weeks ago from COVID. He was 58 years old. He was a strong ivermectin supporter and refused vaccine and intubation.
I don’t have a strong bias against ivermectin but I wish he would have tried the vaccine too. He left a wife,6 kids and a grieving mother.
Survival after intubation has improved over the last year this is from a study in Florida. https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0249038
“Has Ivermectin passed any tests as a Covid treatment?”
Yes. Used all over the world successfully, especially in India. Now used in Japan, Mexico, etc. That the doctors refuse to use invermectin in the United States hearkens back to the demonic Nazi doctors.
Now, I doubt seriously that Fauci himself has had someone do time consuming trials for ivermectin. However, it also has not been done for the covid vaccines.
No. He always gave us the choice whether to take it or not, and that was before there was direct evidence it was unsafe.
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