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Man whose wife sued Ohio hospital to get him Ivermectin treatment for COVID dies
Nexstar Media Wire ^ | Oct 6, 2021 / 03:05 PM CDT | Russell Falcon

Posted on 10/06/2021 7:23:59 PM PDT by The Bugler

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To: The Bugler

From what I’ve read, the viral load is gone after 10 days. What’s left is the inflammatory and circulatory problems. Ivermectin won’t work so late into the illness. It needs to be taken either as a prophylactic or in that first week.


61 posted on 10/06/2021 9:06:43 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: The Bugler

Did they give him remdesivir?


62 posted on 10/06/2021 9:13:12 PM PDT by bray (Our patience is wearing thin Joe)
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To: petitfour

If you’re still hospitalized and declining at 20 days in, the guidelines say to treat with tocilizumab, which is a targeted monoclonal meant to turn off the cytokine storm trigger mechanism and gives a 7% edge. If you’re still walking around outside a hospital at 20 days, you’re beyond contageous, so what would be the point? a booster maybe?

(from SA below) The antibodies from Eli Lilly, Regeneron, and GlaxoSmithKline and Vir are approved for children age 12 and older and adults who have not been hospitalized whereas Genentech’s antibodies [tocilizumab] are for children and adults who are already on ventilator

here are the treatment guidelines.
https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/management/clinical-management/hospitalized-adults—therapeutic-management/

Scientific American describes the mabs used:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/do-monoclonal-antibodies-help-covid-patients/#:~:text=Monoclonal%20antibody%20%28mAb%29%20therapies%20are%20among%20the%20most,to%20fight%20SARS-CoV-2%2C%20the%20virus%20that%20causes%20COVID.


63 posted on 10/06/2021 9:48:03 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: devere

“The only thing that may save your life in far advanced virus disease is a large amount of intravenous vitamin C.”

TlIntravenous oxygen (ozone or h2o2) is more direct.


64 posted on 10/06/2021 10:00:35 PM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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To: blueplum

Good points & clearly stated.

However, many persons infected are not going to know they’ve been infected until symptoms appear.

So, typically, how long from “noticeable symptoms appear” to “end of monoclonals’ window”?


65 posted on 10/06/2021 10:22:16 PM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: gas_dr

When I had Covid and it became pneumonia, what they called glass lung, they did NOTHING for me but sent me home. That was over a week after diagnosis. Taking Ivermectin and sticking to the MATH + protocol is the best thing a person can do, besides get monoclonal antibodies. They won’t give them to you until you test positive, which can be days after symptoms present, plus 1-3 days for the test to come back.

Prophylactic usage means taking a dose in a proscribed manner if you either are possibly exposed, or are trying to avoid infection at all. There are great results with that, better than the Vaxx for some. Since doctors won’t treat, why not treat yourself?


66 posted on 10/06/2021 10:50:48 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts ((“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer,)
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To: fuzzylogic

entropy12 is trolling this thread


67 posted on 10/06/2021 10:58:32 PM PDT by zipper (In their heart of hearts, all Democrats are communists.)
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To: HollyB
From what I’ve read, the viral load is gone after 10 days. What’s left is the inflammatory and circulatory problems. Ivermectin won’t work so late into the illness. It needs to be taken either as a prophylactic or in that first week.

Yes, true. The earlier the better, but after about 10 days it's too late.

The 28 or so studies the gov't cites were heavily biased toward late use of Ivermectin, hence the results showed the drug was ineffective.

Like giving a corpse an IED shock treatment, then declaring the IED to be ineffective at reviving heart attack victims.

68 posted on 10/06/2021 11:02:43 PM PDT by zipper (In their heart of hearts, all Democrats are communists.)
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To: Paul R.

Regeneron’s guidance sheet says “ within 10 days of symptom onset.”

But, if your po is below 94 (on your little home finger meter), it’s been said to refer the person seeking monoclonals to a hospital.

So I think that the blood oxygen is probably your window alarm - if it starts falling but is still above 94, start running for monoclonals whether it’s day 2 or 10.

NIH considers 94 as ‘moderate’ and below 94 as ‘severe’ disease:

Moderate Illness: no hypoxia( oxygen saturation (SpO) ≥94% on room air).

Severe Illness: Hypoxia, Spo “<94%” on room air

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK572140/


69 posted on 10/06/2021 11:04:37 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: HypatiaTaught
Covid didn’t kill him.

The lack of proper treatment killed him.

Everyone get your own stash of HCQ or Ivermectin.

BE READY

STAY STRONG.

We are at war.

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AMEN, brother. And the pro-"vaccine" trolls here at FR are their allies.

70 posted on 10/06/2021 11:08:40 PM PDT by zipper (In their heart of hearts, all Democrats are communists.)
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To: zipper

So do include Trump as a vaccine troll?


71 posted on 10/06/2021 11:23:33 PM PDT by Pelham ('Viruses don't exist' is the latest variant of Flat Earth theory)
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To: Osage Orange
“Naw...the guy took too long to seek help... If you need a vent...we are going to place one on you. The Vent didn't kill him...the COVID did....“.

No the commies running our hospitals killed him.

72 posted on 10/06/2021 11:39:27 PM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: fuzzylogic; entropy12; drSteve78; kiryandil; Dead Dog; FreeReign
The Indian of state Uttar Pradesh has been declared COVID-19 free after the government promoted the use of Ivermectin.
73 posted on 10/07/2021 12:16:02 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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To: entropy12

You are beneath contempt.


74 posted on 10/07/2021 12:31:11 AM PDT by Stentor ( )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

You need ivermectin earlier


75 posted on 10/07/2021 2:15:23 AM PDT by personalaccts (Is George W going to protect the border?)
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

Holding people accountable should be the first priority with consequences much like a parole committee voting to release a rapist murderer into society and 3 days later he rapes and murders, judges are no exception. WE need some serious changes


76 posted on 10/07/2021 3:16:59 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (Always look behind the curtain)
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To: odawg
Then why did the fool not allow the man his drug?

I imagine his point is that since judges are not doctors or nurses then judges should not second guess doctors or nurses in the treatments they prescribe,

What about the Right to Try law that Trump got passed?

I don't think it applies. It allows terminal patients access to therapies that have completed Phase I testing but have not been approved by the Food and Drug Administration. Has Ivermectin passed any tests as a Covid treatment?

77 posted on 10/07/2021 4:20:36 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

A friend of mine from highschool died a couple of weeks ago from COVID. He was 58 years old. He was a strong ivermectin supporter and refused vaccine and intubation.

I don’t have a strong bias against ivermectin but I wish he would have tried the vaccine too. He left a wife,6 kids and a grieving mother.

Survival after intubation has improved over the last year this is from a study in Florida. https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0249038


78 posted on 10/07/2021 4:34:12 AM PDT by dangerdoc
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“Has Ivermectin passed any tests as a Covid treatment?”

Yes. Used all over the world successfully, especially in India. Now used in Japan, Mexico, etc. That the doctors refuse to use invermectin in the United States hearkens back to the demonic Nazi doctors.

Now, I doubt seriously that Fauci himself has had someone do time consuming trials for ivermectin. However, it also has not been done for the covid vaccines.


79 posted on 10/07/2021 4:49:01 AM PDT by odawg
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To: Pelham
So do include Trump as a vaccine troll?

No. He always gave us the choice whether to take it or not, and that was before there was direct evidence it was unsafe.

80 posted on 10/07/2021 6:00:40 AM PDT by zipper (In their heart of hearts, all Democrats are communists.)
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