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It time to stop reinforcing failure. It time for the Medical bureaucracy and the political class to admit the vaccination approach is not working. It time to shift to finding ways to treat the disease in the sick rather try to keep the healthy from getting it.
1 posted on 10/05/2021 6:58:30 AM PDT by MNJohnnie
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To: MNJohnnie

The study of medicare patients released last week said the vaccines don’t even protect against hospitalization very well after a few months. Fully 60% of the 65+ age cohort that are being hospitalized are “fully vaccinated”... that sounds like a fail to me. The government has no business mandating this.

https://www.humetrix.com/powerpoint-vaccine.html


2 posted on 10/05/2021 7:02:15 AM PDT by FreedomVsControl
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To: MNJohnnie

The Pfizer vaccine must be stored at extremely low temperatures and the vials cannot be “restocked” after thawing . Have to wonder with so many small pharmacies and clinics giving this vaccine if it is being stored and handled properly. People may be receiving worthless injections.


3 posted on 10/05/2021 7:03:01 AM PDT by allendale
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To: MNJohnnie

ready shoot aim

shot first, testing later


5 posted on 10/05/2021 7:05:39 AM PDT by joshua c (Dump the LEFT. Cable tv, Big tech, national name brands)
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To: MNJohnnie

this is outrageous.

insufficient testing.
lies of “safety”.
KNOWINGLY sterilizes and causes metastasis and tumor growth.
bioweapon MADE to deliberately made to SHED SPIKE protein.

AMERICANS MASK:
frankly, simple hanging is far too lenient, is it not?


8 posted on 10/05/2021 7:11:22 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: MNJohnnie; administrator
Need to change the title of this thread to the title of the article:

Effectiveness of Pfizer COVID-19 Vaccine Falls Below 50 Percent After 5 Months: Study


9 posted on 10/05/2021 7:13:19 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Joe Biden takes the "em" out of empathetic)
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To: MNJohnnie

“The study (pdf), which was funded by Pfizer”

“between Dec. 14, 2020 and Aug. 8, 2021”

“They found that the Pfizer vaccine was 88 percent effective in the first month after full vaccination but dropped to 47 percent effectiveness after five months.”

“Reduction in vaccine effectiveness against SARS-CoV-2 infections over time is probably primarily due to waning immunity with time rather than the Delta variant escaping vaccine protection.”

The last statement contradicts other recent studies and flies in the face of numerous well known celebrity cases and peoples’ personal experiences. I wonder why? I personally know three young healthy people who came down with “Delta” approximately a month after their second Pfizer shot. And how about the “fully vaccinated” “Texas delegation” who managed to give “Delta” to dozens of “fully vaccinated” politicians and their aides. This happened in July; the parties were involved were mostly relying on Pfizer and most were in the window when Pfizer according to this study is most effective.

This bought and paid for study is highly suspect and meant only to increase the billions of dollars that Pfizer continues to rake in by encouraging repeated “booster shots”. The Pfizer jab seemed to have worked against the original Fauci/CCP gain of function version of Covid but is now obviously almost completely ineffective against “Delta” and other recent variants.


12 posted on 10/05/2021 7:19:48 AM PDT by fireman15
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“Effectiveness against Delta-related hospital admission remained high at 93 percent for up to six months, the researchers said.”


13 posted on 10/05/2021 7:20:51 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: MNJohnnie

What are the levels of B - Cell and T - Cell creation?


14 posted on 10/05/2021 7:22:06 AM PDT by TNoldman (AN AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM/BHO FREE AMERICA. (Owner of Stars and Bars Flags))
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To: MNJohnnie

if it’s not working

just do more of it


22 posted on 10/05/2021 7:40:58 AM PDT by Pollard (PureBlood)
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To: MNJohnnie
It time to stop reinforcing failure.

Failure?

Vaccine effectiveness against hospital admissions for infections with the delta variant for all ages was high overall (93% [95% CI 84–96]) up to 6 months.

23 posted on 10/05/2021 7:41:38 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: MNJohnnie

Well, new cases are dropping like a rock so hopefully this plandemic is waning now for sure: https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_dailycases


30 posted on 10/05/2021 8:04:23 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (Let's make crime illegal again!)
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To: mac_truck

Get your ego out of the way and stop clining to a failed dogma.

More people have died from Covid since we started the Vaccine blitz then died prior to it in the same amount of time

This is failing. And because people have gotten their egos engaged instead of their brains, they are refusing to see it.

It time to stop saying “but but but” and look at the facts

The vaccine is not doing what a vaccine is suppose to do. It not providing long lasting immunity

We need to stop lying to ourselves that if we just keep doing more of the same thing it is ever going to eradicate the disease.

We need to start looking at how we treat those who get it. Covid is here an it not going away no matter how many shots we dish out. That just the painful truth.


35 posted on 10/05/2021 8:30:49 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: DugwayDuke

A shot that needs to be re-administered every 6 months is not a vaccine

People need to stop making this apples to oranges comparison.

I not sure what the proper term for this is. Maybe “temporary preventative treatment”?

But the usual argument for vaccines applied to what ever this is program we are using is an applies to oranges argument.

A “vaccine” that requires a 7.62 billion, and growing, population to get shots every 6 months to be workable is a logistically, and fiscally, impossible to achieve

It time to stop lying to ourselves that this is working.


39 posted on 10/05/2021 9:24:13 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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“Researchers suggested administering a third booster shot as a measure to improve vaccine efficacy.”

This is going to be my last entry concerning covid vaccines. The rhetoric hasn’t changed and it is still the big lie.

The vaccines were never designed to kill a virus. There isn’t any vaccine that will kill a virus. They were designed to assist the body to fight the effects of it. Virus’s change. It can be a little or a lot. And each change is another problem for the body to fight. And it is using the same tool that was needed for the first virus, not the possible thousand of variants that are coming off on ol’ number one.

So saying the shot is how to kill the virus is not only stupid, it is insulting to any person with enough gray matter between their ears to keep the arms and legs moving. Why are we injecting for about half a dozen flu viruses every year which covers something we have had before and the vaccine was determined needed almost a year before it is released? Especially when you will have over 100 strains of flu come through every year. Ask your doctor how many he thinks will come through he US.

So it’s all a great big story designed to make you think something they are trying to get across. I call that a lie.

wy69


41 posted on 10/05/2021 10:10:28 AM PDT by whitney69
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To: MNJohnnie

Good article, thanks for posting.

I received a free issuer of Epoch Times in the mail over the summer. Any thoughts on them and their journalism? Considering getting a subscription.


42 posted on 10/05/2021 10:30:16 AM PDT by Fury
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“likely due to waning immunity over the period of time since the individual was given the second shot as opposed to the Delta strain”

“likely” = no actual evidence to support that statement, but they’ll say it anyway ... delta hasn’t been widespread until recently so it’s completely disingenuous to make claims that that the vaccine was effective against delta until just recently ...


44 posted on 10/05/2021 12:23:53 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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