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To: TwelveOfTwenty; jmacusa; x
quoted: "Cooper notes that when two Northerners visited Jefferson Davis during the war, Davis insisted "the Confederates were not battling for slavery" and that "slavery had never been the key issue" (Jefferson Davis, American, p. 524)."

Why Davis would lie about this is obvious -- because slavery was the sticking point that kept European powers like Britain & France from openly supporting the Confederacy.

Nevertheless, the truth is that Davis was not a 1860 Fire Eater and so Davis began the Corwin amendment in December 1860 as a proposal for "compromise" legislation guaranteeing slavery, hoping to keep his home state of Mississippi from seceding.

But Davis' proposals were rejected by Republicans and so Mississippi did declare secession, their official "Reasons for Secession" document making clear that slavery was the only major issue: So Jefferson Davis' home state made perfectly clear why they seceded -- Davis himself was not part of that, tried to prevent it with a Corwin-like proposal, but Davis' proposal was rejected by Republicans.

After seven Deep Cotton South states declared secession, Democrats tried again with numerous proposals, all rejected by Republicans, until RINO Corwin's proposal, still rejected by the majority of Republicans, but just barely enough RINOs (lead by Senator Seward) supported unanimous Democrats to pass it.
Corwin may (or may not) have helped keep Border South states from seceding in 1861.

Bottom line: when Democrat Jefferson Davis claimed secession was not about slavery, he was simply lying, being a Democrat, doing what Democrats by their natures do -- concocting nonsense to explain the inexplicable and justify the unjustifiable.

481 posted on 10/24/2021 6:37:55 AM PDT by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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To: BroJoeK

Jefferson Davis was an extremely difficult man in his temperament. He was stubborn, held public grudges with his peers and subordinates and was simply an arrogant man..

While in Congress his stubbornness and arrogance had others
in the Senate calling him “Majesty Davis’’.

A journalist once wrote of him by saying that Davis was ‘’unforgiving as a Spaniard to those whom he fancies his foes’’.

His own wife Varnia said of him that he was a ‘’nervous dyspeptic by habit’’.

If it can be said that the strength of a group depends on the will of it’s leader, well, Jefferson had the will alright but he didn’t have the way.

With people that is.

Little wonder the Confederacy fell apart.


483 posted on 10/24/2021 11:24:30 AM PDT by jmacusa (America.Founded by geniuses. Now governed by idiots. )
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I see BroJoeK is pushing more of his crackpot PC Revisionist theories in a desperate attempt to explain away Jefferson Davis’ own words said during the war. He’ll take Stephens’ word as gospel but clearly Davis must be lying when he expresses the opposite sentiments. Must be! Because if not, that would call the whole PC Revisionist premise into question and clearly we can’t have that.


493 posted on 10/25/2021 8:23:44 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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