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7 ways men live without working in America
Yahoo Finance ^ | Sept. 18, 2021 | Andy Serwer with Max Zahn

Posted on 09/27/2021 2:28:33 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie

Almost one-third of all working-age men in America aren’t doing diddly-squat. They don’t have a job, and they aren’t looking for one either. One-third of all working-age men. That’s almost 30 million people!

How do they live? What are they doing for money? To me, this is one of the great mysteries of our time.

I’m certainly not the first person to make note of this shocking statistic. You’ve heard people bemoaning this "labor participation rate," which is simply the number of working-age men (usually counted as ages 16 to 64) who are working or are seeking work, as a percentage of the overall labor force.

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To: Jamestown1630
(though some argue municipal employee pensions are too high),


The folks retire in the municipalities, and then relocate to low cost areas and live quite well.
81 posted on 09/27/2021 5:24:45 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (If the votes are a lie, they must de cert i fy!)
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To: Geoffrey

I have gone John Galt as much as I possibly can.

Yep. Just before I retired I downsized a lot! Even though my pension isn’t in the millions I don’t need much (other than what I already have).


82 posted on 09/27/2021 5:34:29 PM PDT by rfreedom4u ("You may all go to hell and I will go to Texas")
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To: The_Media_never_lie

What’s wrong with that, if it’s legal?


83 posted on 09/27/2021 5:46:57 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Make that 8 if you count marrying rich like Kerry.


84 posted on 09/27/2021 5:51:39 PM PDT by Don Corleone (leave the gun, take the canolis)
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To: ealgeone

There are also a lot of 65+ who won’t stop working. They just do it slower.


85 posted on 09/27/2021 6:07:54 PM PDT by Lisbon1940 (No full-term Governors (at the time of election))
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To: Seruzawa
I never give $ to panhandlers except once. I gave a dollar to a guy who had a sign that said “No Lies Want Beer”. The one honest panhandler.

Nope, guaranteed the guy was still lying. He'll probably go buy meth with it or something.

The "why lie - I need a beer" sign has been going around for years. And the professional homeless share their stories with each other, so when something works, they all start doing it.
86 posted on 09/27/2021 6:16:51 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: ConjunctionJunction

How about full time students


87 posted on 09/27/2021 6:28:09 PM PDT by Persevero (I am afraid propriety has been set at naught. - Jane Austen )
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To: ConjunctionJunction

How about in prison


88 posted on 09/27/2021 6:28:28 PM PDT by Persevero (I am afraid propriety has been set at naught. - Jane Austen )
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To: The_Media_never_lie

More misandry blame all the bad crap on men

Typical of gynosociety media, all they know how to write


89 posted on 09/27/2021 6:35:48 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: HotKat

Fedex is down about 30,000 workers as of now. According to the Fedex manager I talked to late last week.


90 posted on 09/27/2021 6:38:07 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: gr8eman; All

Note this is discussing men and how they are surviving without an income.

Note that not one person said, “house husband” or “has a wife with a really good job”

Thats because that kind of arrangement in reality, almost never happens. To the degree, no one ever thinks to bring it up as an viable option.


91 posted on 09/27/2021 6:41:33 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

I think the problem here is a very limited economic model, based on a theoretical ideal, that cannot adapt to endless exceptions that have it bursting at the seams.

I am reminded of a homeless young man I knew. A real genius according to scholastic measurements, who eventually went to Stanford on a hard science degree and was at the head of his class for his bachelor and master’s degrees.

Well, he had been happily homeless for years, when he noticed a young police officer tailing him on foot. He was not a suspect, and the officer knew he was smart, very smart, but was perplexed why anyone like him would be homeless. The officer eventually confronted him and said he could get training and a good job, and live a *normal* middle class life. (Just like me!)

Well, the homeless young man could see nothing good coming of this, so he quickly located a senior police officer and let him know that the younger officer was having existential problems and needed counseling, describing the situation.

I have taken this situation to heart with the realization that there are a LOT of people with the naivete of this young cop, and find it impossible to think outside the box. Such people are also commonly in politics and government, and running corporations and NGOs.

So the entire premise of this article is the puzzlement of such people, that *other* people are not conforming to their rigid ideas and models. They generate endless exceptions without realizing that their model is so flawed as to be useless.


92 posted on 09/27/2021 6:43:21 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Jen Psaki - The Ginger Goebbels)
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To: ConjunctionJunction

The author confuses diddly squat with untaxable work... But somehow puts unemployment/disability with living off the land.

Here we go IRS... Federal property tax here we go


93 posted on 09/27/2021 6:49:55 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security in hates:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: GreyHoundSailor

Good for you. I could stop working now if I wanted but don’t have anything else I would do, so I just keep working. Although I keep telling my wife I want to quit.


94 posted on 09/27/2021 6:49:57 PM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

I am an RVer and met a guy in Colorado who was about 50 and 2 kids out of the house and he and his wife full time RV. He says he knows where he can hunt precious stones. He said he lives mostly cash basis and I am sure he isn’t on any government programs. People can live off grid and be happy and secure.


95 posted on 09/27/2021 6:54:40 PM PDT by DazedVet (Self esteem cannot be taught in school but comes from actual achievement.)
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To: free-in-nyc

LOL :)


96 posted on 09/27/2021 7:00:17 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: The_Media_never_lie

How many of the 30 million are ILLEGAL immigrants? 20+ million


97 posted on 09/27/2021 7:04:28 PM PDT by Sapwolf (Talkers are usually more articulate than doers, since talk is their specialty. -Sowell)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Note this is discussing men and how they are surviving without an income.

Note that not one person said, “house husband” or “has a wife with a really good job”

Thats because that kind of arrangement in reality, almost never happens. To the degree, no one ever thinks to bring it up as an viable option.

That may have been true for older generations, where a guy straight out of high school could get a manufacturing job and easily afford a house in the suburbs, but things are a bit different for us younger folk. I personally know men who earn less than their wives. Needless to say, they tend to be better looking than the average Joe. Women don't pay for access to sex, but they do pay for quality in some cases. In a country where 75% of men are overweight or obese the 25% can demand more.

Interesting that the percentage of dual-income marriages where the wife earns more is also around 20-25% according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
Earnings of husbands and wives in dual-earner families: PDF

98 posted on 09/27/2021 7:26:36 PM PDT by FormerFRLurker
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To: DazedVet
I am an RVer and met a guy in Colorado who was about 50 and 2 kids out of the house and he and his wife full time RV. He says he knows where he can hunt precious stones. He said he lives mostly cash basis and I am sure he isn’t on any government programs. People can live off grid and be happy and secure.


Yes, they can indeed live off the grid and be happy and secure so long as they are young and relatively healthy. However, when they are old and sick, they will need the miracle cures/operations that are available. At that time it will not be possible to polish a few stones to to pay for this. Then they will rely on my tax money, which is taken from me at the threat of gunpoint, to pay for their health care.
99 posted on 09/27/2021 7:28:43 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (If the votes are a lie, they must de cert i fy!)
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To: ealgeone

Or you could read the article


100 posted on 09/27/2021 8:09:42 PM PDT by bigbob
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