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WRAY Told Congress FBI Had Not Infiltrated Proud Boys, NYT Reports They Had Two Informants On Jan 6
National File ^ | Sep 25 | by TOM PAPPERT

Posted on 09/25/2021 11:34:31 AM PDT by RandFan

While many on the left still use the word “insurrection,” the federal government has yet to use it once on charging documents related to the civil unrest at the U.S. Capitol on January 6. Instead, the federal government has charged many in leadership positions of groups like the Proud Boys with “conspiracy” and have alleged that there was a plot among these groups to breach the U.S. Capitol. FBI Director Christopher Wray previously seemed to acknowledge to Congress that his agency had not infiltrated the groups present at the Capitol protest. According to the New York Times, the FBI had at least two Proud Boys working as confidential informants on January 6.

Earlier today the New York Times released a report, quoting anonymous FBI officials, revealing that the FBI had at least two confidential informants at the Capitol on January 6, and one was regularly texting his FBI handler throughout the day to give updates on the rally-turned-protest that resulted in minor destruction of property at the U.S. Capitol building. The New York Times writes that this reveals “federal law enforcement had a far greater visibility into” the events of January 6 even as they were “taking place, than was previously known.”

In an appearance before the U.S. Senate, Wray was questioned on the topic of FBI infiltration of the groups accused of planning to enter the U.S. Capitol by Sen. Amy Klobuchar. While stopping short of explicitly claiming the FBI had not infiltrated these groups, FBI Director Chris Wray appeared to acknowledge his agency had not.

“There must me moments where you think, ‘If we would have known. If we could have infiltrated this group and found out what they were doing,’ questioned Klobuchar, “Do you have those moments?”....

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalfile.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: capitolriot; jan6
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1 posted on 09/25/2021 11:34:31 AM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan

Maybe there’s a FBI within the FBI?


2 posted on 09/25/2021 11:37:22 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: RandFan

Wray knows there’s no penalty for lying to Congress as long as one’s position is Deep State-approved.


3 posted on 09/25/2021 11:39:58 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: pepsionice
THIS is a long but insightful article that decorates the report.

The meat concerning is the last half dozen or so paragraphs

4 posted on 09/25/2021 11:41:20 AM PDT by knarf
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To: RandFan

Infiltration is probably so routine that underlings don’t even bother to inform the top people.


5 posted on 09/25/2021 11:42:58 AM PDT by Brian Griffin ( )
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To: RandFan
Cracks are forming in the edifice of the January 6th narrative. Even the NYT is admitting there were FBI handlers among the Proud Boys. But the NYT is conspicuously silent about possible/probable FBI informants among the Oath Keepers, who were much more closely tied to the violence on January 6th.

And the lack of interest in Oath Keeper leader Stewart Rhodes is also interesting. He has escaped charges despite being one of the apparent instigators of the storming of the Capitol. Meanwhile, they've arrested grannies who just walked in, stood around, and took a few pictures.
6 posted on 09/25/2021 11:47:52 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: knarf

What meat did you see there? I didn’t see any names of domain owners. I guess the hackers must have gotten past the WhoIs registry. I have an Epik domain and it is not about politics at all.


7 posted on 09/25/2021 11:48:07 AM PDT by Savage Rider
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To: RandFan

Wray’s a damn liar who lies to aid the democrats only.


8 posted on 09/25/2021 11:51:26 AM PDT by Bullish (I'm only half kidding)
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To: Savage Rider

I agree; I don’t know what the “meat” was.


9 posted on 09/25/2021 11:52:06 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Steve_Seattle

Many believe that the OK’s are heavily infiltrated - if not flat out run -by the FBI. They fold like a cheap suit.


10 posted on 09/25/2021 11:52:49 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: RandFan

Wray is a liar.


11 posted on 09/25/2021 11:56:43 AM PDT by McGavin999 (biden is not my president)
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To: RandFan
rally-turned-protest

WTF does this shiite mean? Anyone who ambushes words and murders their meaning is doing the dirty work of the left.

12 posted on 09/25/2021 11:57:44 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Savage Rider
Whsat I meant by "meat" is where the Proud Boys were identified in the report


After the hackers’ announcement, Epik initially said it was “not aware of any breach.” But in a rambling, three-hour livestream last week, Monster acknowledged there had been a “hijack of data that should not have been hijacked” and called on people not to use the data for “negative” purposes.

“If you have a negative intent to use that data, it’s not going to work out for you. I’m just telling you,” he said. “If the demon tells you to do it, the demon is not your friend.”

Several domains in the leak are associated with the far-right Proud Boys group, which is known for violent street brawls and involvement in the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol and was banned by Facebook in 2018 as a hate group.

A Twitter account, @epikfailsnippet, that is posting unverified revelations from the leaked data, included a thread purporting to expose administrators of the Proud Boys sites. One man who was identified by name as administrator of a local Proud Boys forum was said to be an employee of Drexel University; the university said he hasn’t worked at Drexel since November 2020.

Technology news site the Daily Dot reported that Ali Alexander, a conservative political activist who played a key role in spreading false voter fraud claims about the 2020 presidential election, took steps after the Jan. 6 siege to obscure his ownership of more than 100 domains registered to Epik. Nearly half reportedly used variations of the “Stop the Steal” slogan pushed by Alexander and others. Alexander did not reply to requests for comment from the Daily Dot or, on Tuesday, from The Post.

Extremism researchers urge careful fact-checking to protect credibility, but the data remains tantalizing for its potential to unmask extremists in public-facing jobs. Emma Best, co-founder of Distributed Denial of Secrets, a nonprofit whistleblower group, said some researchers call the Epik hack “the Panama Papers of hate groups,” a comparison to the leak of more than 11 million documents that exposed a rogue offshore finance industry. And, like the Panama Papers, scouring the files is labor intensive, with payoffs that could be months away.

“A lot of research begins with naming names,” Best said. “There’s a lot of optimism and feeling of being overwhelmed, and people knowing they’re in for the long haul with some of this data.”

This story was originally published at washingtonpost.com. Read it here.

13 posted on 09/25/2021 11:58:47 AM PDT by knarf
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To: RandFan

Maybe the informants failed to inform Wray they were indeed informing.

Wong Wray to run the FBI.


14 posted on 09/25/2021 11:59:38 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The crowd was chanting "Death to America", but they were a mostly friendly crowd.)
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15 posted on 09/25/2021 12:02:44 PM PDT by proust (All posts made under this handle are, for the intents and purposes of the author, considered satire.)
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To: proust

I find it amazing those guys were not doxxed. They must have pretty deep cover.


16 posted on 09/25/2021 12:04:28 PM PDT by lodi90
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17 posted on 09/25/2021 12:19:40 PM PDT by bitt (<img src=' 'width=50%>)
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To: proust

Back in 1982 a coworker got busted by a stipper who turned him in to the local popo because he apparently gave her a Percocet in return for a lap dance. When they stormed into the club to arrest him he had four or five of the pills (I never touched those poisons FWIW...the strippers or drugs).

Anyway, because he had more than three pills, he was charged as a “dealer” and was charged with a felony.

He later quipped; “cops are nothing but the losers from high school looking to get back at the world”

That photo reminded me of that coworker’s words from so many years ago


18 posted on 09/25/2021 12:22:12 PM PDT by SheepWhisperer (My enemy saw me on my knees, head bowed and thought they had won until I rose up and said Amen!)
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To: pepsionice
-- Maybe there's a FBI within the FBI? --

Big outfit, I'm sure cliquish. Like the Mafia has cliques.

As for "not infiltrated," that's the typical government speak, where whatever word you use to describe the misconduct, the bad actor is not doing THAT.

E.g., not spying on Carter Page, because whatever invasion of privacy they were perpetrating, it wasn't "spying."

19 posted on 09/25/2021 12:27:16 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: pepsionice

It’s a lie
Inside a plot
Surrounded by a ploy


20 posted on 09/25/2021 12:27:56 PM PDT by smvoice (King Joege: He's really quite mad you know )
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