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1 posted on 09/23/2021 6:06:06 AM PDT by Bon of Babble
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To: Bon of Babble

Wired looking monument. The man seems to be asking who took his shirt and woman appears to handing paper menus from Chinese takeout. BTW who is the fat white woman in red dress?


27 posted on 09/23/2021 6:49:12 AM PDT by robowombat (Orthodox )
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This new “memorial” is nowhere near “the spot” where the Lee monument stood. GP SNAFU.

The new statues are on an island in the James River. (By the way, King James was a slaveholder.)


28 posted on 09/23/2021 6:52:13 AM PDT by Captain Jack Aubrey (There's not a moment to lose.)
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And within 10 years, a Chinese megaton warhead will melt that down and everyone who ordered it.


31 posted on 09/23/2021 6:57:50 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (Each of you have at least ONE of these in your 401k: Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca, Johnson & Johnson)
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how could there possibly be emancipation if there’s no trace of a civil war? Maybe the statues are about northern slaves that ran south? /s

but now we know why REL came down on the quiet - the replacement sculptures, deliberately designed to keep racial tension going, were finished


33 posted on 09/23/2021 7:03:16 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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What a backwards ridiculous statue in 2021.
34 posted on 09/23/2021 7:03:31 AM PDT by Vision (Elections are one day. Reject "Chicago" vote harvesting. Election Reform Now. Obama is an evildoer.)
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"Freedom"

Underneath, it should say "(just kidding)."

36 posted on 09/23/2021 7:05:13 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (The pandemic we suffer from is not COVID. It is Marxist Democrat Leftism.)
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Where’s the hammer and sickle?


37 posted on 09/23/2021 7:08:28 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods ( comment might be sarcasm, or not. It depends. Often I'm not sure either.)
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This depiction of the end of slavery is historically inaccurate, probably serving the fantasies of those in 2021 who feel they are victims of slavery.
44 posted on 09/23/2021 8:05:09 AM PDT by Vision (Elections are one day. Reject "Chicago" vote harvesting. Election Reform Now. Obama is an evildoer.)
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Tear it down.


46 posted on 09/23/2021 8:28:36 AM PDT by MercyFlush (The American Revolution was a violent revolt against a dictatorship. )
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disgusting


47 posted on 09/23/2021 8:30:04 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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The image of George Floyd and the Black Lives Matter letters are projected onto the Robert E. Lee Statue on Monument Avenue in Richmond on June 10, 2020. (John McDonnell/The Washington Post)

56 posted on 09/23/2021 12:36:24 PM PDT by MarvinStinson
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Richmond’s Lee statue, after 131 years, is an unpardonable insult

by Jeffrey Boutwell Washington Post July 9, 2021
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/07/09/richmond-robert-e-lee-statue-insult/

In the coming weeks, the Virginia Supreme Court will make known its decision regarding the fate of the most prominent Confederate memorial still standing in the nation: the 60-foot-tall equestrian statue of Gen. Robert E. Lee overlooking Monument Avenue in Richmond, former capital of the Confederacy.

Unveiled in 1890, the Lee statue has stood supreme among the hundreds of memorials and monuments throughout the South honoring the Confederacy and its rebellion against the Union. By 1920, it had been joined on Monument Avenue by memorials to Confederate Gens. Stonewall Jackson and J.E.B. Stuart and President Jefferson Davis, making the street a pantheon to Confederate war heroes.

The dedication of the Lee statue occurred, ironically, on May 29, just days before Memorial Day, originally called Decoration Day to honor the hundreds of thousands of Union troops who died in the Civil War. In a ceremony described by one Virginia newspaper as “the greatest day” in Richmond history, more than 150,000 people celebrated with parades, cannons, fireworks and the singing of “Dixie” and “Carry Me Back to Old Virginia.”

Up north, the Boston Daily Globe provided extensive coverage of the event under the headline, “Immortal Lee.” In an accompanying editorial, the paper echoed the dominant theme of North-South reconciliation then common in the country, noting how “the gaping wounds of civil strife have now healed … [and] the past has lost its power to sting and wound.”

This would have been news to the nearly 4 million Blacks then living in the South and subject to increasingly harsh Jim Crow laws, lynchings and white supremacist violence. For them, “the gaping wounds” of slavery and the Civil War had not healed and the past had not “lost its power to sting and wound.”

The Boston Daily Traveler saw things quite differently. In an editorial entitled “An Unpardonable Insult,” the paper criticized the ceremony in Richmond for seeking to elevate Lee to “the same pedestal of honor and greatness” as George Washington. In blunt language, the paper contrasted the actions of these two native sons of Virginia, declaring that Washington would never “have engaged in a war for the destruction of the American Union in obedience to the action of Virginia,” as Lee did.

The Daily Traveler also noted an incident that was a premonition of things to come. At the ceremony, someone in the crowd placed a Confederate flag in the hands of a nearby statue of George Washington and “there it remained during the day” — similar to the “unpardonable insult” of a Confederate flag being carried into the rotunda of the U.S. Capitol building on Jan. 6 by supporters of President Donald Trump seeking to violently prevent Congress from certifying the results of the 2020 election.

I discovered an original of the 131-year-old Daily Traveler editorial among the papers of George S. Boutwell, a Massachusetts congressman who helped enact the 14th and 15th amendments in the 1860s guaranteeing political and civil equality to Blacks. After serving as treasury secretary for President Ulysses S. Grant, Boutwell was elected to the Senate, where he led an investigation of white supremacist violence in Mississippi. It’s little wonder that Boutwell would greatly sympathize with the sentiments of the Daily Traveler editorial.

By the time of the Lee statue dedication in 1890, it was apparent to Boutwell and the Daily Traveler that the proliferation of Confederate memorials was but a symbol of the victory of the Lost Cause campaign of the South in rehabilitating notions of white supremacy. The next several decades saw the spread of Jim Crow laws and the institutional racism, South and North, that has crippled our society well into the 21st century. Only now, sparked by the George Floyd murder and Black Lives Matter protests, is the United States beginning to seriously reckon with that legacy.

To give Richmond due credit, its city council made the decision in 2020 to remove and relocate all those Confederate memorials on Monument Avenue that were on city property. As the Lee statue is on property deeded by private citizens to the Commonwealth of Virginia, it is up to the state Supreme Court to decide its ultimate fate.

Whatever that decision may be, our national debate over the potency of white supremacist symbols will continue. Though it is certainly appropriate that Americans remember and respect all who fought and died in our great and terrible Civil War, had Lee and his Confederate flag been victorious, the United States today would be a very different place — if it existed at all.


61 posted on 09/23/2021 12:56:26 PM PDT by MarvinStinson
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So many of my relatives are named R.L. Robert Nelson. Robert Lee. Michael Robert., Etc. all named after Robert E Lee. a And thy don’t plan to change their names! The Civil War was more about states rights than slavery. Slavery was on its way OUT anyway. Abe wanted the federal gov to rule the land. And he was murdered for this. I don’t think anyone still wanted slavery. Even George W had his slaves freed upon his death.


63 posted on 09/23/2021 1:00:02 PM PDT by buffyt (Truth is the Enemy of the State. )
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I assume they’re going to change the name from Monument Avenue to something else?


68 posted on 09/23/2021 1:24:43 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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It’s a good statue. It captures the moment of emancipation. It’s also much better than that one of the teenage gangster riding a horse they put up a year ago.


72 posted on 09/23/2021 5:38:46 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals)
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Monument Ave is neither.

Sad.

5.56mm


75 posted on 09/24/2021 10:17:33 AM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho need to go.)
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It is a beautiful statue. Having said that, I demand that every left wing jacka$$ write a thank you note to all the Union Soldiers’ families thanking them for their sacrifice in freeing the slaves. Until that is done, all the left wing jacka$$e$ need to shut up and read up on American History written by well known historians from 50 years ago.
85 posted on 09/25/2021 10:45:37 PM PDT by Chgogal (Biden's New Taliban, same as the old Taliban. America, we are so screwed.)
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