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To: DugwayDuke
That link only explains how CDC defines a breakthrough case.

The link shows that the CDC stopped counting breakthrough cases unless they wound up dead or hospitalized. The significance is they were trying to hide the decline of vaccine effectiveness.

Tell me why we are discussing booster shots if the vaccine effectiveness is not declining?

All of your links have similar weaknesses and do not support your allegations.

Couldn't come up with an argument against them, so you just wave your hand and pretend.

why would millions of health care professionals world wide be complicit in a conspiracy to distribute a vaccine that results in millions of deaths world wide?

Show me where I made that claim. You are simply making baseless claims, allegations, and innuendo because you have no real argument.

if millions are indeed complicit, then why haven’t at least tens of thousands confessed to this conspiracy?

I never claimed any conspiracy, that is your red herring. Several of my links are to the CDC itself. People who don't know what they are doing usually do wind up exposing their own incompetence.

are you aware that the great majority of anti-vaxxer misinformation comes from a limited number (12) sources/individuals?

None of what I posted is anti-vaccine. My links were to the CDC, the British Medical Journal, an Indian newspaper, and Nature magazine. Are you accusing the CDC of being anti-vax? BMJ? Nature?

This is why you are nothing more than a paid shill (at least I hope you are being paid and not doing this to yourself for free): You refuse to even read what actual scientists are publishing, instead you mindlessly regurgitate what you have been told to think.

On the other hand, I am reading what the CDC and FDA and anyone else I can find are publishing whether I agree with it or not. This is why I am posting links to scientific journals and you are ranting about "anti-vaxers."

You are just like most of the left and the Biden admin shouting "science!" while they are doing all they can to suppress it because it doesn't fit their narrative.

144 posted on 09/25/2021 7:49:31 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: hopespringseternal

hopespringseternal wrote: “The link shows that the CDC stopped counting breakthrough cases unless they wound up dead or hospitalized. The significance is they were trying to hide the decline of vaccine effectiveness.”

That is entirely consistent with the purpose of the vaccines, as has been stated all along, was to prevent serious illness or deaths.

hopespringseternal wrote: “Tell me why we are discussing booster shots if the vaccine effectiveness is not declining?”

Can you identify three vaccines that do not require boosters to maintain effectiveness?

hopespringseternal wrote: “Couldn’t come up with an argument against them, so you just wave your hand and pretend.”

No, if you look at all your links they all display the same weaknesses.

Here’s the next two links:

No one is ignoring that different areas have different areas have different outcomes. The problem is trying to isolate the causes.

No one is ignoring that viruses mutate. That isn’t an credible argument about vaccines. The viruses mutate and the vaccines change.

All of your arguments/links are an attempt to place an impossibly high standard for the vaccines in an attempt to argue that they are ineffective.

hopespringseternal wrote: “Show me where I made that claim. You are simply making baseless claims, allegations, and innuendo because you have no real argument.”

The claim that millions of health care professionals are complicit in a giant conspiracy to kill millions isimplicit in all of your claims.

hopespringseternal wrote: “I never claimed any conspiracy, that is your red herring. Several of my links are to the CDC itself. People who don’t know what they are doing usually do wind up exposing their own incompetence.”

So now you’re claiming that millions of health care professionals do not know what they’re doing and are simply incompetent?

hopespringseternal wrote: “None of what I posted is anti-vaccine. My links were to the CDC, the British Medical Journal, an Indian newspaper, and Nature magazine. Are you accusing the CDC of being anti-vax? BMJ? Nature?”

It is your interpretation of these links that makes you an anti-vaxxer.

hopespringseternal wrote: “This is why you are nothing more than a paid shill (at least I hope you are being paid and not doing this to yourself for free): You refuse to even read what actual scientists are publishing, instead you mindlessly regurgitate what you have been told to think.”

You do realize that accusing someone of being a paid shill is a big admission that you’re losing the argument.

hopespringseternal wrote: “You are just like most of the left and the Biden admin shouting “science!” while they are doing all they can to suppress it because it doesn’t fit their narrative.”

You are attempting to suppress anything that doesn’t fit your (anti-vaxxer) narrative.


145 posted on 09/25/2021 2:41:35 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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