hopespringseternal wrote: “The link shows that the CDC stopped counting breakthrough cases unless they wound up dead or hospitalized. The significance is they were trying to hide the decline of vaccine effectiveness.”
That is entirely consistent with the purpose of the vaccines, as has been stated all along, was to prevent serious illness or deaths.
hopespringseternal wrote: “Tell me why we are discussing booster shots if the vaccine effectiveness is not declining?”
Can you identify three vaccines that do not require boosters to maintain effectiveness?
hopespringseternal wrote: “Couldn’t come up with an argument against them, so you just wave your hand and pretend.”
No, if you look at all your links they all display the same weaknesses.
Here’s the next two links:
No one is ignoring that different areas have different areas have different outcomes. The problem is trying to isolate the causes.
No one is ignoring that viruses mutate. That isn’t an credible argument about vaccines. The viruses mutate and the vaccines change.
All of your arguments/links are an attempt to place an impossibly high standard for the vaccines in an attempt to argue that they are ineffective.
hopespringseternal wrote: “Show me where I made that claim. You are simply making baseless claims, allegations, and innuendo because you have no real argument.”
The claim that millions of health care professionals are complicit in a giant conspiracy to kill millions isimplicit in all of your claims.
hopespringseternal wrote: “I never claimed any conspiracy, that is your red herring. Several of my links are to the CDC itself. People who don’t know what they are doing usually do wind up exposing their own incompetence.”
So now you’re claiming that millions of health care professionals do not know what they’re doing and are simply incompetent?
hopespringseternal wrote: “None of what I posted is anti-vaccine. My links were to the CDC, the British Medical Journal, an Indian newspaper, and Nature magazine. Are you accusing the CDC of being anti-vax? BMJ? Nature?”
It is your interpretation of these links that makes you an anti-vaxxer.
hopespringseternal wrote: “This is why you are nothing more than a paid shill (at least I hope you are being paid and not doing this to yourself for free): You refuse to even read what actual scientists are publishing, instead you mindlessly regurgitate what you have been told to think.”
You do realize that accusing someone of being a paid shill is a big admission that you’re losing the argument.
hopespringseternal wrote: “You are just like most of the left and the Biden admin shouting “science!” while they are doing all they can to suppress it because it doesn’t fit their narrative.”
You are attempting to suppress anything that doesn’t fit your (anti-vaxxer) narrative.
No, that is the fallback story. If that is true, where are all the widespread (mild) outbreaks of almost any other disease? Polio? Diptheria? Cholera? Any look at honest data from anywhere else shows that the effectiveness of this vaccine is laughable. Even the CDC admits it when they aren't publishing propaganda for the masses.
Can you identify three vaccines that do not require boosters to maintain effectiveness?
Can you name three vaccines that require booster shots every six months indefinitely? If you believe that it will stop at three your next stop is shopping for bridges. Even the flu vaccine is only once a year and that is because it has to be reformulated every year for new strains.
COVID vaccines aren't being reformulated for new strains, so their already poor performance against new strains will only get worse.
No, if you look at all your links they all display the same weaknesses. Then point out exactly what those weaknesses are. Be specific. Tell me where Nature and the British Medical Journal are getting their science wrong.
The claim that millions of health care professionals are complicit in a giant conspiracy to kill millions isimplicit in all of your claims.
I posted links to published science and I have made no such claim myself. You keep saying it because you are too lazy or dishonest to actually address the science. All you know how to do is mindlessly repeat talking points someone else gave you.
It is your interpretation of these links that makes you an anti-vaxxer.
That's just name-calling. If you bothered to actually read any the science you would see none of the conclusions are mine.
No one is ignoring that viruses mutate. That isn’t an credible argument about vaccines. The viruses mutate and the vaccines change.
Again, if you read any of the science you would understand why you can't narrowly vaccinate everyone against one small part of the virus. It is the functional equivalent of giving everyone low dose antibiotics. You guarantee the selection of the strains that are most resistant, destroying that antibiotic as a treatment option.
They should have given this vaccine only to high risk individuals and started development of a full genome vaccine for everyone else. They shouldn't bother giving it to anyone who has had covid.
And as far as denigrating health care professionals, if you pulled your head out of your rectal orifice you would notice how many nurses are being fired for refusing the vaccine and how many doctors out there are criticizing the CDC/FDA for their mindless anti-science boosterism.